[Official] Graviton Mercenary | Graviton Guard

[meowww]

I would vote for cost / hp.
Smash just seems way too powerful with 1 cost, you can disable a permanent deck arch-type with a few smashing creatures.

Maybe there can be some passive like Scarab, they start with 2/6, then +2Atk for each other Gravitation Guard.

[eaglgenes101]

+3 HP both.

[ZephyrPhantom]

I would vote for cost / hp.
Smash just seems way too powerful with 1 cost, you can disable a permanent deck arch-type with a few smashing creatures.

Explosion is 3 | 2 to permanently remove any 1 permanent.
Graviton Mercenary is 3 + 1 per turn to permanently disable any 1 weapon/shield/shard. (Full flexibility only occurs upped and Raider does not get a cost decrease.)

Smash is more expensive that explosion and less efficient - the only advantage Smash has is in flexibility.

[n00b]

+3 HP both.

I think that may be one of the problems with Gravity: often times it sacrifices attack for HP. In the case of the Graviton Mercenary/Guard, I wouldn't mind even seeing just an attack increase of one. Having stats of 4|5 for 4 quantum actually would make Graviton Mercenary a card able to be used when unupgraded, and also would then increase the power of Gravity's weak unupgradedness

[meowww]

I would vote for cost / hp.
Smash just seems way too powerful with 1 cost, you can disable a permanent deck arch-type with a few smashing creatures.

Explosion is 3 | 2 to permanently remove any 1 permanent.
Graviton Mercenary is 3 + 1 per turn to permanently disable any 1 weapon/shield/shard. (Full flexibility only occurs upped and Raider does not get a cost decrease.)

Smash is more expensive that explosion and less efficient - the only advantage Smash has is in flexibility.

But don't forgot it is a creature itself, it still dealing damage, able to receive buffs.
A smash + a pillar, almost same as a 3/5 Creature with a Explosion, each side for 2 cards, with more flexibility.

[Annele]

What about a 2/7 creature with acceleration | overdrive as an passive active ability?

[ZephyrPhantom]

I would vote for cost / hp.
Smash just seems way too powerful with 1 cost, you can disable a permanent deck arch-type with a few smashing creatures.

Explosion is 3 | 2 to permanently remove any 1 permanent.
Graviton Mercenary is 3 + 1 per turn to permanently disable any 1 weapon/shield/shard. (Full flexibility only occurs upped and Raider does not get a cost decrease.)

Smash is more expensive that explosion and less efficient - the only advantage Smash has is in flexibility.

But don't forgot it is a creature itself, it still dealing damage, able to receive buffs.
A smash + a pillar, almost same as a 3/5 Creature with a Explosion, each side for 2 cards, with more flexibility.

A creature also has the vulnerability of being killed by CC.
Smash can only keep one permanent temporarily 'occupied' - the moment you run out of quanta or Mercenary dies, Smash no longer works and the Permanent stands untouched.
A real creature with Explosion has the ability to permanently wipe out multiple cards, not just 1 card.
Let's say a we had a "Pyromancer" with 3 , 3 | 5 , and : Explosion.

After summoning sickness, Pyromancer could take out 1 or more permanents completely without having to maintain denial or worry about limitations - an unkilled Pyromancer could take out at least 2-3 permanents with repeated use of Explosion, and when killed, those permanents won't come back. In contrast, an unkilled Mercenary can only control one permanent at a time (the previous permanent comes out of delay), and when it is destroyed the Permanent can be used again.  Mercenary also can't delay pillar/pend stacks, while a Pyromancer could slowly chip away at the opponent's quantum sources (said pillars/pends).

What about a 2/7 creature with acceleration | overdrive as an passive active ability?

How would this not conflict with Acceleration + Armagio? (On a related note, I tend to disagree with a few stat buff variants because unupped Mercenary treads very close to Charger in terms of role - certain buffs to stats that may raise cost as a side effect can make it overlap too much with Charger IMHO. When giving Merc stat buffs keep in mind that it should have a different niche from Charger.)

[meowww]

I would vote for cost / hp.
Smash just seems way too powerful with 1 cost, you can disable a permanent deck arch-type with a few smashing creatures.

Explosion is 3 | 2 to permanently remove any 1 permanent.
Graviton Mercenary is 3 + 1 per turn to permanently disable any 1 weapon/shield/shard. (Full flexibility only occurs upped and Raider does not get a cost decrease.)

Smash is more expensive that explosion and less efficient - the only advantage Smash has is in flexibility.

But don't forgot it is a creature itself, it still dealing damage, able to receive buffs.
A smash + a pillar, almost same as a 3/5 Creature with a Explosion, each side for 2 cards, with more flexibility.

A creature also has the vulnerability of being killed by CC.
Smash can only keep one permanent temporarily 'occupied' - the moment you run out of quanta or Mercenary dies, Smash no longer works and the Permanent stands untouched.
A real creature with Explosion has the ability to permanently wipe out multiple cards, not just 1 card.
Let's say a we had a "Pyromancer" with 3 , 3 | 5 , and : Explosion.

After summoning sickness, Pyromancer could take out 1 or more permanents completely without having to maintain denial or worry about limitations - an unkilled Pyromancer could take out at least 2-3 permanents with repeated use of Explosion, and when killed, those permanents won't come back. In contrast, an unkilled Mercenary can only control one permanent at a time (the previous permanent comes out of delay), and when it is destroyed the Permanent can be used again.  Mercenary also can't delay pillar/pend stacks, while a Pyromancer could slowly chip away at the opponent's quantum sources (said pillars/pends).

By "A smash + a pillar, almost same as a 3/5 Creature with a Explosion, each side for 2 cards."

I meant, with a pillar as its source of cost, you only need 2 cards slot to keep smash up (without facing CC, it effectively same as removed a permanent.)
while a 3/5 creature(a creature card) with Explosion(a spell card) also take 2 slots, but cost more mana to cast, there are no unuped 3/5 cost 1, nor uped 3/5 cost 0.

While with lower cost, you also enjoy more flexibility, and Graviton offer more protection than fire, it don't sounds fair to fire decks.

[Ilias22]

Lower cost just for the unnuped.make it cost 3

[meowww]

In the propose, an unuped Mercenary cost 3, and a pillar cost nothing, so total a 3 cost and 2 cards to put a 3/5 creature in the field and one PC.
An unuped Explosion cost 3 as well, and you still need to pay a 3/5 creature (which at least cost 3 while unuped) to make 2 cards same as Guard + pillar.
It is a 3 cost different.

An uped Raider cost 3, a tower cost -1 (gives you 1).
While an uped Explosion cost 2, and you still need to pay a 3/5 creature (Let say you use one 2 cost uped to do the same job) to make the two cards close to yours.
It is a 2 cost different.

(Well even the uped one cost 3, it still only cost 2 cost and 2 cards to being a creature and doing a PC.)

Even it prone to CC, they are still way too good.

[Chapuz]

They would be dar more used with a  : 1 turn momentum

[AnonymousRevival]

I think it should just have more health. It fits the theme of .