[Official] Firefly Queen | Elite Queen

[wespebbles50]

6 would help more with rainbow and make it a little faster with quantrum cost

[Toxx]

This is more of a strategic card it's not meant to be rushed with. It's fine the way it is.

[OldTrees]

This is more of a strategic card it's not meant to be rushed with. It's fine the way it is.

It is meant to be a 1 card win condition.
Lava Golem is also a 1 card win condition. (it can also be rushed with but then it is never alone)

I did not provide a rush table. I provided the efficiency at being a single card win condition.

[wespebbles50]

This is more of a strategic card it's not meant to be rushed with. It's fine the way it is.

Also if you take a look at essence jmz deck it uses rush lava golem and firefly queen

[Toxx]

This is more of a strategic card it's not meant to be rushed with. It's fine the way it is.

It is meant to be a 1 card win condition.
Lava Golem is also a 1 card win condition. (it can also be rushed with but then it is never alone)

I did not provide a rush table. I provided the efficiency at being a single card win condition.

Thats the idea I get when I play it. Hmm is there like a list of 1 card win conditions ? I know Pharaoh is one

[OldTrees]

This is more of a strategic card it's not meant to be rushed with. It's fine the way it is.

It is meant to be a 1 card win condition.
Lava Golem is also a 1 card win condition. (it can also be rushed with but then it is never alone)

I did not provide a rush table. I provided the efficiency at being a single card win condition.

Thats the idea I get when I play it. Hmm is there like a list of 1 card win conditions ? I know Pharaoh is one

Here is a list from my perspective:
  Lava Golem,
  Fire Spirit,
  Forest Spirit,
  Steam Machine,
  Fire Fly Queen,
  Pharaoh,
  Blue Nymph,
  Graviton Fire Eater,
  Fallen Elf (has a chance),
  Forest Scorpion,
  Arsenic,
  Chyrsaora.
  Fahrenheit
  Fire Bolt
  Drain Life
  Ice Bolt
  Pufferfish
All these are cards that with 1 copy of that card (and no other cards), a quanta supply (as indicated) and time can kill the opponent. (1 card win conditions for deckout win conditions were not listed)

[Toxx]

This is more of a strategic card it's not meant to be rushed with. It's fine the way it is.

It is meant to be a 1 card win condition.
Lava Golem is also a 1 card win condition. (it can also be rushed with but then it is never alone)

I did not provide a rush table. I provided the efficiency at being a single card win condition.

Thats the idea I get when I play it. Hmm is there like a list of 1 card win conditions ? I know Pharaoh is one

Here is a list from my perspective:
  Lava Golem,
  Fire Spirit,
  Forest Spirit,
  Steam Machine,
  Fire Fly Queen,
  Pharaoh,
  Blue Nymph,
  Graviton Fire Eater,
  Fallen Elf (has a chance),
  Forest Scorpion,
  Arsenic,
  Fractal (their monster if quanta permits),
  Mindgate
All these are cards that with 1 copy of that card (and no other cards), a quanta supply (as indicated) and time can kill the opponent. (1 card win conditions for deckout win conditions were not listed)

Thank you!

[Pineapple]

Technically, any creature can be a one-card win condition. I don't think this should be a yes/no attribute of a card, but that it should be on a scale.
How much damage can this one card do?

Dragons used to be pretty high on this scale, with 10 damage in one card, and they still are for 100 HP opponents with no healing. However, since the meta-game shifted to SoGs and such, dragons lost this damage-per-card efficiency for slower ramps such as Steam Machine, simply because 10 damage per turn is not enough anymore.

Also, I can't believe you forgot Chrysaora in  your list of cards that can deal 100 damage in one turn. In addition, you shouldn't count Mindgate and definitely not Fractal, which rely on your opponent's cards and you having the quanta to Fractal your opponent's cards, without counting Parallel Universe and Steal. Also, if you're going to count Parallel Universe and Fallen Druid, count Pandemonium, too.
Plus, the phrase "if quanta allows" means that the card must be paired with quanta-generation cards, just as a scorpion must be paired with momentum.

[OldTrees]

Good catch on Chyrsaora.
Forest Scorpion does not need an attack boost.
Quanta generation was assumed.
Good point about Mindgate and Fractal.

Yes any card with Attack equal to 2 or more can be used as a one card win condition in a deck that would last 50-60 turns with that card out. I choose to make a division based on maximum damage per turn where there is a great rift between Crimson Dragon|Ruby Dragon 12|15 and Firefly Queen|Elite Firefly Queen 69|91

[zse]

Good catch on Chyrsaora.
Forest Scorpion does not need an attack boost.
Quanta generation was assumed.
Good point about Mindgate and Fractal.

Yes any card with Attack equal to 2 or more can be used as a one card win condition in a deck that would last 50-60 turns with that card out. I choose to make a division based on maximum damage per turn where there is a great rift between Crimson Dragon|Ruby Dragon 12|15 and Firefly Queen|Elite Firefly Queen 69|91

Fahrenheit, / / Bolt should be on that list too. And maybe even Nymph and Puffer Fish?

[OldTrees]

Wow. I made a lot of mistakes.
updated
(Nymph Queen needs Pillars not just quanta.)

[DrunkDestroyer]

IMO, this is the quintessential example of an 'elements' card, it really is one of the most diverse, powerful and symbolic of most things with elements.

(I mean, from Faerenheight, to Hope, to Empathic Bond, it is the single awesomest source of trio decks, the reason for control, and one of the coolest end games you can ever have)



If I was to sticky one topic as my last act as GS&F Moderator, and the last act of any GS&F Moderator ever (lol@Feedback Manager) it would be this one.

- 1 cost to FFQ!!!
or even 2, if cards are going to be OP, at least make them ones I like!!!