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[Official] Firefly Queen | Elite Queen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21780.msg279184#msg279184
« on: February 26, 2011, 08:37:57 pm »


Frankly, what used to be an iconic card for air has just fallen the wayside. It's basically never played outside of extremely limited formats, and there is a good reason for this. It's just too slow. By the time you get a queen up and running most rushes will have overrun you, and slower decks will just get rid of it.
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Re: Firefly Queen | Elite Queen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21780.msg279198#msg279198
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2011, 09:17:23 pm »
the card is currently just a bit slow to be competative.  Needs a slight cost decrease.

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Re: Firefly Queen | Elite Queen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21780.msg279205#msg279205
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2011, 09:22:03 pm »
Well, some FG-rainbows use it, like Skittles and CCYB (Not so much, but helps w/ Golems).
I think it's pretty balanced. Not every card needs to be a rush card ;)
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Re: Firefly Queen | Elite Queen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21780.msg279207#msg279207
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2011, 09:24:53 pm »
FG Rainbows use it because it is a good card for getting to 200 damage. It is too slow when your deck is trying to reach 100 damage.
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Re: Firefly Queen | Elite Queen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21780.msg279208#msg279208
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2011, 09:26:31 pm »
Yes, cost decrease.  Even a -1 :air reduction would be fine.  It doesn't need to be a rush card, but it should be able to set up stalls quicker.  With the more recent game changes this card is just becoming more and more obsolete.
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Re: Firefly Queen | Elite Queen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21780.msg279213#msg279213
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2011, 09:34:33 pm »
Well, some FG-rainbows use it, like Skittles and CCYB (Not so much, but helps w/ Golems).
I think it's pretty balanced. Not every card needs to be a rush card ;)
FG decks use one or two. This card was made to have decks built around it. The ideal trio deck. Yet, how many do you see?

Maybe I'm just saying this, because I managed to lose to a creature spam deck using FFQ/Hope and Bonds in a tourney, but I'd like to see it recieve a light buff, just enough to make it competitive and awesome again.

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Re: Firefly Queen | Elite Queen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21780.msg279217#msg279217
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2011, 09:39:14 pm »
This card was not competitive when it costed 6 :air and it still had been nerfed. It is was a huge mistake, as it made the Queen almost unplayable.

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Re: Firefly Queen | Elite Queen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21780.msg279221#msg279221
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2011, 09:44:43 pm »
The buff is indeed needed. Like Zeru said, it was fine when it was 6  :air. This should help Supernova decks.
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Re: Firefly Queen | Elite Queen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21780.msg279577#msg279577
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2011, 12:27:11 pm »
Well, some FG-rainbows use it, like Skittles and CCYB (Not so much, but helps w/ Golems).
I think it's pretty balanced. Not every card needs to be a rush card ;)
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Other than that: By being nerfed it was made unplayable. The nerf should be reverted. But I dont think buffing it even more after that will be really important because upcoming changes tend to make stalls stronger (shields being buffed, small creatures producing quanta unupped, cost decrease in flooding and arctic squid...), which will maybe again counter the currently to strong rushes.

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Re: Firefly Queen | Elite Queen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21780.msg279598#msg279598
« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2011, 01:06:17 pm »
Well, some FG-rainbows use it, like Skittles and CCYB (Not so much, but helps w/ Golems).
I think it's pretty balanced. Not every card needs to be a rush card ;)
Don't use FG's as an argument when reasoning about cards!

Other than that: By being nerfed it was made unplayable. The nerf should be reverted. But I dont think buffing it even more after that will be really important because upcoming changes tend to make stalls stronger (shields being buffed, small creatures producing quanta unupped, cost decrease in flooding and arctic squid...), which will maybe again counter the currently to strong rushes.
Fgs and anti-fg decks are two different things, in this case it referred to an anti-fg deck, and I think whether it's used in a(n anti fg) deck is very important, since cards that aren't used need a buff harder than those who are, since if they're used by players they apparently do have usage.

And zanz seems to balance based on overall usage (see card usage statistics).

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Re: Firefly Queen | Elite Queen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21780.msg279612#msg279612
« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2011, 01:53:31 pm »
This card was the victim of a totally brutal drive-by nerfing that did nothing to improve game balance. Put it back!
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Re: Firefly Queen | Elite Queen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21780.msg279895#msg279895
« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2011, 09:01:04 pm »
Like others have already said, at least undo the nerf. It's not like it was that powerful at 6 :air ...

 

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