[Official] Fire Spirit | Fire Spectre

[Antagon]

Spirit is ok, maybe 1/1 instead of 0/2, but ok, but Spectre is pretty useless. make it 1/3 with 2 cost, or 3/3 with the 3 cost, or something like that, but - at least the upgraded spirit - is very useless atm.

[BluePriest]

I would say changing it to 4 hp. It doesn't gain any health, and yet,  single firestorm can wipe out your army of these things. Let them at least survive 1 RoF

[guolin]

I would say changing it to 4 hp. It doesn't gain any health, and yet,  single firestorm can wipe out your army of these things. Let them at least survive 1 RoF

Yeah, this.

Compare to cards like Graviton Firemaster and Steam Machine. They all have enough hp that they can survive a few hits. I saw reduce Fire Spirit's cost to 1 if it's going to be squishy.

[Glitch]

Fire spirit is mono growth.  Mono growth exists nowhere else in the entire game.

It's perfectly balanced.

[Malduk]

Fire spirit is mono growth.  Mono growth exists nowhere else in the entire game.

It's perfectly balanced.

Yeah, this.

Fire cards are all very weak against CC. I see no point in giving ablaze creature protection from RoF. I wouldnt mind upped version having the same cost as unupped version though.

[Antagon]

Fire spirit is mono growth.  Mono growth exists nowhere else in the entire game.

It's perfectly balanced.

but in every deck, i could mention, i prefer spirit over spectre, i dont think thats the sense of these spirits.

[BluePriest]

Fire spirit is mono growth.  Mono growth exists nowhere else in the entire game.

It's perfectly balanced.

since all the others (- steam machine) can be sustained with just the mark, I dont see this as too big of a difference.

[jmdt]

Fire spectre is weak, but fire doesn't really need it to be strong.

[Antagon]

Fire spectre is weak, but fire doesn't really need it to be strong.

 i just think a card makes no sense, if the upgraded version is totally useless (cause weaker)

[Malduk]

i just think a card makes no sense, if the upgraded version is totally useless (cause weaker)

Upgraded version is one turn faster and has 1 HP more. How is it weaker?

[Antagon]

the cost of 3 makes it weaker, cause in decks, based on spirits (or rainbows with quantum towers or only a few burnings), its all about speed, the "real" difference is the +1 defense, rest is pretty the same (cause same attack at the same time).

if cost stays the same (maybe with stats 1/2 or 1/3), it would be far more usefull. (or as it is with +1 defense to survive an owls eye hit, a fire storm, etc)

[Malduk]

the cost of 3 makes it weaker, cause in decks, based on spirits (or rainbows with quantum towers or only a few burnings), its all about speed, the "real" difference is the +1 defense, rest is pretty the same (cause same attack at the same time).

Umm... upped version is faster, not unupped. It takes 2+1 quanta for unupped version to get 2 attack. It takes 3 quanta for upped version to get 2 attack. The difference is that upped version gives you 2 attack at the turn you play the card, while unupped version gives that to you one turn later.

So the difference between those two cards is 1 turn and 1 HP. Cost is the same. Meaning upped version IS better.