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[Official] Fallen Elf | Fallen Druid https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30201.msg383722#msg383722
« on: August 23, 2011, 02:42:45 am »


The Fallen Elf is a great card and does not need to be changed, and while the Fallen Druid is also a great card it is odd that the upgraded version only produces non-upgraded creatures even when the original creature was upgraded. Nymph's Tears and Nymph Queen both produce upgraded nymphs when used on an upgraded pillar, regardless of whether or not they (Nymph's Tears and Nymph Queen) are upgraded, so it does not make sense that other transformation cards would down-grade the targeted card. Fallen Druid should be buffed so that the mutants it produces will be upgraded, at the very least the ones created from upgraded creatures should be upgraded. The card Improved Mutation could also benefit from a similar buff.
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Re: Buff the Fallen Druid (Upgraded Version Only) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30201.msg383738#msg383738
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2011, 03:29:46 am »
what's the point? the mutant's going to have different stats, abilities and ability costs anyway.

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Re: Buff the Fallen Druid (Upgraded Version Only) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30201.msg383747#msg383747
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2011, 04:33:00 am »
It would indeed be a buff but a very, very minor one. Buffing it in such a way would increase the synergy between the Fallen Druid and:
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Re: Buff the Fallen Druid (Upgraded Version Only) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30201.msg383766#msg383766
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2011, 05:50:38 am »
Perhaps, but mutation is completely random, so that kind of "synergy" is rather unreliable.

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Re: Buff the Fallen Druid (Upgraded Version Only) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30201.msg383794#msg383794
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2011, 07:56:17 am »
i dont see the point of the buff.
as it is its a very strong card when combined with other cards.
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Re: Buff the Fallen Druid (Upgraded Version Only) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30201.msg383859#msg383859
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2011, 02:29:37 pm »
Considering that Improve would not only simply make the creatures upgraded with this suggestion, but also give them the standard 0-4 attack/HP increase, I don't believe this buff is necessary.  There's already a huge gap between Mutation and Improved Mutation due to Improved Mutation having nearly 0 negative side effects; allowing it to produce even stronger creatures in addition would increase that gap farther than I would prefer.
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Re: Buff the Fallen Druid (Upgraded Version Only) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30201.msg397779#msg397779
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2011, 09:37:46 am »
I thik it should make upgraded creatures to upgraded mutants but just for it would look realistic no boost to att/def because that  :P

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Re: Buff the Fallen Druid (Upgraded Version Only) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30201.msg401004#msg401004
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2011, 07:47:40 am »
Other: Needs higher attack and defense.

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Re: Buff the Fallen Druid (Upgraded Version Only) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30201.msg410344#msg410344
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2011, 03:14:06 pm »
Fallen druid it's ok, why buff it? It produces creatures with rare abilities, and they help a lot.

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Re: Buff the Fallen Druid (Upgraded Version Only) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30201.msg419160#msg419160
« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2011, 11:29:34 pm »
I'm gonna say raise the hp. Attack is good how it is, but this thing gets killed way too easily.

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Re: Buff the Fallen Druid (Upgraded Version Only) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30201.msg419161#msg419161
« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2011, 11:34:49 pm »
I'm gonna say raise the hp. Attack is good how it is, but this thing gets killed way too easily.
No buff, fine as is.
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Re: Buff the Fallen Druid (Upgraded Version Only) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=30201.msg419163#msg419163
« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2011, 11:41:43 pm »
I'm playing it a lot in my arena farming deck, and I feel it's strong enough as it is. Saved me a lot of times.
Creatures produced are agressive, frequently have PC and CC capacities and nearly no downside (you can have a 0 HP creature, very rare).
It's a perfect recycler for allies you're finding not strong enough in a given situation. Big dragons with dive, voodoo doll with steal, etc.

The only thing that balances him is his low health right now.

 

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