[Official] Druidic Staff | Jade Staff

[Annele]

I believe Staff is UP. It's main use is with adrenaline, but neither have the sweet spot of 3 damage. It also has very poor damage, and is probably the least used of the weapons.
A comparison to Vampire stiletto/dagger:

	Druidic Staff	Vampire Stiletto
Cost	2	1
Attack	2	4
Healing	5	4
	Jade Staff	Vampire Dagger
Cost	2	2
Attack	4	6
Healing	5	6

I would suggest making the attack for Jade staff 3 (to increase healing with adrenaline) and have it's healing 6. (Thanks to furball for the suggestion.)

[Absol]

This can heal even while frozen, missing shield, while Vamp Stiletto can't. Stiletto have to deal damage to heal, this doesn't have to.

[furballdn]

If you make the unupped have 3 attack, that would be way too powerful. I'm fine with having the upped do 3 damage though. It's more like a berf, since the only advantage is for epi, but when did anyone use jade staff for the damage anyway?

[ZephyrPhantom]

Would you please elaborate on why it is UP more than just a table comparison with Vampire Dagger? I see your point, but an opening argument to build off of would be nice. ^^;
Compare Shard of Gratitude:



Other Quanta = 1.5 + 1.5[Standard Cost] IIRC.
5 = 1.5 + 1.5[Unupped Cost if SoG costed instead.]
3.5 = 1.5[Unupped Cost]
Unupped Cost=2.3 ~= 2

3 = 1.5 + 1.5[Upped Cost if SoG costed instead.]
1.5 = 1.5[Upped Cost]
Upped Cost=1

Assuming that Mark Bonus is not taken into account, SoG gives 3 HP each turn for 2 | 1 .

Weapons get an innate -3 cost for Single Slot bonus.

Druidic Staff costs 2 +3 for a net 7 | 9 HP difference increase between your and enemy HP each turn.
Vampire Dagger Costs 1 |  2 +3 for a net 8 | 12 HP difference between your and enemy HP each turn.

Unupped:
SoG 3/2 = 1.5 HP/Quanta
Druidic Staff = 7/5 = 1.4 HP/Quanta
Vampire Dagger 8/4 = 2 HP/Quanta

Upped:
SoG 3/1 = 3 HP/Quanta (Pity it isn't used that often anymore. ^^;)
Druidic Staff = 9/5 = 1.8 HP/Quanta
Vampire Dagger 12/5 = 2.4 HP/Quanta

However Vampire Dagger is the most vulnerable out of all the cards (Healing is reduced by shields, cannot heal if frozen/delayed). This should compensate for the +0.6HP difference with the more resilient Druidic Staff. Life is also better suited to healing with it's cards in general, as they do not have damaging the opponent as a requirement for getting full healing (unlike most of Darkness's vampiric cards)
Conclusion: No change needed. Difference is slight and is compensated for by other factors.

[Calindu]

Can't see this needed, since it can basically heal even frozen and against shields and haves Adrenaline in element.

[Jumpitydude]

Yeah, Life has Adrenalin. Never mind that Darkness has Dusk Mantle, Steal, Drain Life, and Cloak. Before you complain that this makes it unfair to compare the stiletto and staff, they're both rare weapons that cost about the same, making them comparable in my eyes. Life got a small buff due to Mitosis, but overall, it's still a weak element on its own. Life needs to catch up to the other elements, and starting by buffing its rare weapon sounds like a good idea to me.

Also, are there any rare life cards other than the staff? I don't think there are.

[Chapuz]

It's not bad atm, but 3|5 attack would make it powerful enough to be even more used 

[Atico]

If anyone didn't see problem then I can ask You - why most of rainbows/novas decks use VS, not JS? Yes, players aren't stupid and they use better weapon, so they choose VS. It is very clearly to say that JS is worst than VS, but... I accepted this fact that this game isn't so balanced and promotes few elements.
How solve this unbalanced fact? Use VS, play Darkness instead of Life and You will have advantage in game.

[omegareaper7]

If anyone didn't see problem then I can ask You - why most of rainbows/novas decks use VS, not JS? Yes, players aren't stupid and they use better weapon, so they choose VS. It is very clearly to say that JS is worst than VS, but... I accepted this fact that this game isn't so balanced and promotes few elements.
How solve this unbalanced fact? Use VS, play Darkness instead of Life and You will have advantage in game.

Let me repeat one problem with what you just said. Stilleto doesn't heal if it doesn't hit or is frozen, staff does.  Its not strictly better.

[OldTrees]

While Vampire Stilleto is not strictly superior (stringent test for imbalance), it does seem empirically (less conclusive test for imbalance) more valuable than Jade Staff.

[memimemi]

From a thematic point of view: no buff needed - at least, not the ones so far suggested. 

Why?  Staves are, traditionally, defensive weapons.  Because it's a rare artifact for the  Elemental Wizard, it also grants healing, which, let's face it, most sticks just don't do.  Neither of those uses for a staff lend themselves to an easy explanation for increased ATK.  Should it heal more every turn?  Well, compare it to a hypothetical  Quarterstaff, without healing.  Assuming equal quanta costs, is the 5 healing every turn worth the cost of it being  2 , instead of 2 ?

Now, conversely, a potential buff that would fit the theme of a staff would be more HP;  also has the precedent of Emerald Shield, so Immortality would be another buff that would work.  Would players be happy to use Jade Staff more, if it functioned as an untargetable SoG?  Even at the cost of the synergy with Epinephrine/Momentum?  I don't know.

But, then again, I'm happy with it the way it is.  Sure, it's not as splashable as Vamp Dagger is; luckily,  is home to great mono-element synergies of its own.

Throwing in a couple  .

[OldTrees]

@memimemi
Is the hypothetical quaterstaff anything like Hammer? (also 2 )

PS:I estimate 2 + 1 card ~= 1/3 + 1 card