[Official] Cloak | Cloak

[Absol]

I also agree.

[Tiko]

Pandemonium actually removes Cloak.

While it makes sense thematically, I think it's unnecessary, as it makes your opponent to pay more attention/memorize on what you play - which can be confusing as it is in case of Cloak-chains. Currently it also lets the other player to prepare for countermeasures when the Cloak runs out or when PC is drawn. It'd be way over the top if not, in my opinion.

Personally, I'd remove the counter-reset when stolen, but that'd probably fit in more as a 'nerf' I guess. I say it's strong enough as it is.

[Dm]

I also agree.

That is all. I always wondered why this "buff" wasn't really within the cards effect. Seems to fit so well.

[ARTHANASIOS]

I think the Cloak is fine as it is. Hiding what cards are played shouldn't be within the abilities of Cloak. Cloak hides your field and not your hand. It is not a hand-manipulating card (like Silence or Nightmare); it is a field-manipulating card (like Flooding or Nightfall) and, due to this, it is fine as it is right now.

[pikachufan2164]

This would be nice thematically, but it would simply throw forum-organized PvP out the window.

Why? Deckbuilding restrictions. Hiding everything under Cloaks would enable cheating (e.g. using illegal decks and getting away with it).
Suppose Spectator Mode reveals the cards played from the hand. Then people would just open up another window in Spectator Mode while they're playing PvP matches to get around the fact that they can't see the cards being played.
Suppose Spectator Mode doesn't reveal them. Then the risk of cheating becomes lower and some people might be more compelled to cheat, knowing that they aren't as likely to be busted for it.
Suppose there were a special Spectator Mode for Organizers that reveals the cards being played under the Cloak. Then we get a conflict of interest if that person is in a different event where they're a player instead of an organizer.

Is this one change worth the trouble it would cause? I don't really think so.

Or we could just have Cloak banned for EVERY. SINGLE. EVENT. EVER. But that's lame :\

[Dm]

Well, the current rules still don't completely follow forum-organized PVP. For example, let us say that a rule says that "I can't use Psions." I can still slip Psions into my deck. It's illegal, but no one sees it. Or, the rules say "You must include Skeletons in your deck." I could make a mono-aether and place Skeleton as a dead card. It's just Honor Code, really. While that would make it harder to keep track of organized PVP, it's still not too far off from our current system.

[Poker Alho]

i would like a change in the card where the player itself could not be targeted by spells, like purify and lightning, because you were also covered by cloak

[Calindu]

i would like a change in the card where the player itself could not be targeted by spells, like purify and lightning, because you were also covered by cloak

That sounds good actually!
The idea in OP is nice, but can make this kinda too powerful and as pika said: Banning it from every PvP event sounds lame.

[Jyiber]

I was thinking of suggesting it as a buff for cloak, but it could be worked into it's own card.

If you let cloak hide the cards you play, you might as well hide quanta consumption as well.

[Heric the Dark Lord]

According to the forums, I'm necroing, and I'm sorry for that. It was on the front page, after all...

All these people talking about cheating with that cloak buff, they HAD a point. it's gone now. The tournaments are now running deck checks, so people couldn't do that.

Still, maybe not what cards are played, but it should hide the hand, and possibly the quanta pool.

[Fippe94]

The deck check are only helpful if someone breaks the rule without knowing. If they break the rules knowingly, using cloak to hide their cards, then they would obviously send a modified, legal deck to the TO for checking.

[Absol]

The deck check are only helpful if someone breaks the rule without knowing. If they break the rules knowingly, using cloak to hide their cards, then they would obviously send a modified, legal deck to the TO for checking.

It was not a problem because of honor system we had. But then it took an arrow to the knee.
Now that the decks are checked anyway, it shouldn't be a problem to hide hands too.