[Official] Chimera | Chimera

[MeetJSquared]

While I agree that making it airborne would have benefits, I just think that Chimera is not UP, so there is naturally no need for the 'buff'.

[Calindu]

While I agree that making it airborne would have benefits, I just think that Chimera is not UP, so there is naturally no need for the 'buff'.

No benefits,it has momentum--->Not affected by wings...BTW

[OldTrees]

While I agree that making it airborne would have benefits, I just think that Chimera is not UP, so there is naturally no need for the 'buff'.

No benefits,it has momentum--->Not affected by wings...BTW

1 benefit
A chimera made of non airborne creatures currently cannot gain any benefit from Skyblitz.
PS: I do not think it deserves this benefit. Hence Chimera should not be made airborne.

[Kuroaitou]

Thematically speaking, I can't exactly imagine a Chimera suddenly becoming Airborne - by forcing all of the creatures (of variable sizes) into one huge amalgamation, you're basically making a huge 'clump' of beasts that can certain tackle through any puny shield, but unable to really soar through the skies. Even if you manage to combine cards with various passives (Scarabs, Devourers, Voodoo Dolls, etc.), by mixing them all together in one monster ball, you're basically stripping them of their natural anatomy, and pseudo-mutating them into one monstrosity that will absorb all damage (and deal a decent amount of it back, depending on the creatures absorbed).

vrt's Foil Chimera artwork expresses this idea perfectly; it's a mash-up of creatures that were forced together - it still hits through 'Wings' because it's so huge (Momentum), but that doesn't mean it should be able to rid the air currents to find the perfect attack angle from above/'flying' (Sky Blitz). It's too heavy to really receive that airborne passive.

Just my 2 . ^^;

[Time_lord_victorius]

Ok yea i was playing a deck with chimera and sky blitz, and i used chimera, then blitzed, expecting to get an epicly high attack creature. I was really dissapointed and i lost the match.
and btw, i know its cheaper now, im just copying the image from its thread in gravity cards section

the combo goes: pop the dragons, skyblitz, CHIMERA!
on the other hand, i do agree that chimera should have airborne IF it has been created with 2 or 3 airborne critters.

[Zergva]

                         

Uhm... This card was gone. I wanted to see the topic of Buff Chimera, but I've found SN earlier and made my mind, so opening a new topic.

Really, what happened this card? I can't see this anywhere.

Why it's "devouring" everything? In my opinion it's only can absorb the creatures what I allow (for that high price, at least).

[omegareaper7]

More explanation would be nice. Since underused doesn't mean underpowered.

[OldTrees]

Why it's "devouring" everything? In my opinion it's only can absorb the creatures what I allow (for that high price, at least).

Because it is a mass momentum effect with drawbacks to reduce the cost.

You will need to support your gut feeling that the cost + drawbacks are greater than the benefit.


PS: +0|+1 would not be used to prevent it from dying alone. It would cheapen the Sparks usage.

[Zergva]

It's underused, but there's a slight difference between being not useful in the actual metagame, or neither in arena/AI 3-6 for a reason. This card is too crappy even for a Nightmare combo to fill your opponent hand with sh*t.

1, Why does  Chimera useless in mono? I rather draw an other monster to rush than 'do nothing' for 7|6, gravity uses momentum without it, anticombosive with Acceleration and Catapult (3 Armagio with Catapult deal 60+2+1 dmg, transformed to Chimera deal only 43) or Otyurg or Salvaging. Gravity has PC and good PC-s, so a shield can't be a matter.

2, Duo-s

  -> Anticombosive with mitosis | Adrenaline | Emphatic bond | Green Nymph.
  -> Various of combinating possibilities, but SoF is better to hack up the shield than this and burrowing is safer.
  -> Rather quanta deny, where it's not needed.
It's just not worth being in a duo.

3, Trio,rainbow
Exponentially not worth.

It's not worth to combinate with any ability creature.

->Unlike Shard golem, a Rewinding makes it 0|0 if it's played again (so actually it kills this card).

-> if the creature on the the first slot is Aflatoxined, the Chimera will die not depending on how much and how big it will be (except if 1 of them is burrowed or immaterial). And alfatoxin is still cheaper than.

-> I don't know if it's a bug, but if I draw Chimera with SoBr it's automatically plays it and takes an other in hand (even if I don't want to or the field is empty).

Gravity pull kills it (the fun that the card automatically has a pull) against an other rush easily.

[kaempfer13]

Well I had meh results using parallel universe and flying titans (animate weapon upped obviously). However even if you quint a 24/150 chimera (6 card combo however I managed to pull that off a few times) -removing the counters reverse time and mutation- you can still die to sofree, poison, momentum and ordinary weapons. Also it can be useful in a deck that uses SoP and salvagers. But I agree that this card is only really useful in OTKs where defense and quanta cost barely matter. Buffing it in that respect might help it; targetting is not going to happen and also not very useful, since you want to get as much out of the momentum/gravity pull effect as possible.
However the main reason why we dont see this card often is that it requires the whole deck to be build around it.

[omegareaper7]

1: Chimera can be useful in mono gravity, it can act as a big shield late game which is very useful in certain mono gravity builds.
2: Its great in some duos, the ability to by pass shields in a duo such as life is invaluable.
3: It works great in rainbows. Have you not seen the OTKs running around? Most use it.

[Zergva]

Well I had meh results using parallel universe and flying titans (animate weapon upped obviously). However even if you quint a 24/150 chimera (6 card combo however I managed to pull that off a few times) -removing the counters reverse time and mutation- you can still die to sofree, poison, momentum and ordinary weapons. Also it can be useful in a deck that uses SoP and salvagers. But I agree that this card is only really useful in OTKs where defense and quanta cost barely matter. Buffing it in that respect might help it; targetting is not going to happen and also not very useful, since you want to get as much out of the momentum/gravity pull effect as possible.
However the main reason why we dont see this card often is that it requires the whole deck to be build around it.

Doesn't this deck is better without Chimera?

Aether mark
12 grav pillar, 6 grav pend, 6 Titan, 6 PU, 6 Animate weapon, 6 SoF, 6 Overdrive, 3 Catapult. Kay it's raw, and not perfect, but Overdriven Titan is sounds better. This Chimera can be frozen down/Rewind...

1: Chimera can be useful in mono gravity, it can act as a big shield late game which is very useful in certain mono gravity builds.
2: Its great in some duos, the ability to by pass shields in a duo such as life is invaluable.
3: It works great in rainbows. Have you not seen the OTKs running around? Most use it.

1, In gravity, everything can be a shield (Gravity pull)  and I rather use on SoF+grav pull for an agressive PC+defense combo than sacrifice everything. If the damage is not more than 20 (where a SoF can work peacefully for more than enough turn). And please if you want to say, "a deck specially for that", not use certain. Yes, in 'certain' deck Skeleton can be a cruel card, but it doesn't changes the fact that is only good for a token. And there is a good reason why I can't see this card in the Arena.

2, Yes, that why Momentum used so much in duos, but it's not that topic. Chimera in duos... Say a match and after I say why it's not good with Chimera. Btw compare in duos with SoF. Negates shield? Yep. Yes, SoF is rare, but the half of it is enough to change it against the Chimera (destroying 1-2 shield and I'm not counting that is aviable for destroying everything else). And Chimera absorbs the abilities too and that's is a great disadvantage.

3, You're right, I've never seen Rainbow OTK deck with that card. Plz a decklist In my opinion rainbow is slow (except pillarless), but using the best cards to handle every situation or the best monsters from every element.