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Re: Obsidian Dragon(upgraded black dragon) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21421.msg1033097#msg1033097
« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2013, 10:26:47 pm »
Although it is strictly weaker than , remember that Darkness has Nightfall|Eclipse, which makes it much stronger.

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Re: Obsidian Dragon(upgraded black dragon) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21421.msg1033116#msg1033116
« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2013, 11:12:54 pm »
Well, I agree that only he alone is weak, but  is best dragon in synergy with his element, devourer expedites entry, eclipse and increases your status,  liquid shadow makes him a terrible vampire. Imagine a buff ?
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Re: Obsidian Dragon(upgraded black dragon) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21421.msg1033142#msg1033142
« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2013, 12:28:06 am »
I suggest we change his name =p I actually think that a "Shadow Dragon" sounds nicer and much more appropriate.

Also, this card does not need a buff. While your reasoning is sound, you fail to recognize the massive inner-element synergy it has.
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Re: Obsidian Dragon(upgraded black dragon) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21421.msg1033169#msg1033169
« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2013, 02:06:16 am »
Every think why almost no one upgrades it?
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Re: Obsidian Dragon(upgraded black dragon) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21421.msg1033177#msg1033177
« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2013, 02:31:27 am »
Eclipse will give it +2+1 ,become 14/7
and mono darkness deck is powerful
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Re: Obsidian Dragon(upgraded black dragon) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21421.msg1033193#msg1033193
« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2013, 03:03:07 am »
Really....what is the deal.. Do you realize, even with Nightfall....THEN it would still be the same as a Sky Dragon....  The fact that could be a vampire with liquid shadow has the right to be because HE DIES after poisoned... I mean come on, reason with me, it could use Any buff listed in the poll, dont matter just he is so underpowered to All other dragons.
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Re: Obsidian Dragon(upgraded black dragon) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21421.msg1033198#msg1033198
« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2013, 03:09:26 am »
I think both Emerald and Jade Dragon is OP in this case. They have more HP, even against their unupped counterpart. But when you use Life dragons for comparation, every other dragon feels UP.
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Re: Obsidian Dragon(upgraded black dragon) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21421.msg1033199#msg1033199
« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2013, 03:10:54 am »
Really....what is the deal.. Do you realize, even with Nightfall....THEN it would still be the same as a Sky Dragon....  The fact that could be a vampire with liquid shadow has the right to be because HE DIES after poisoned... I mean come on, reason with me, it could use Any buff listed in the poll, dont matter just he is so underpowered to All other dragons.
Yes, it dies after 6 turns of healing for at LEAST 12. How is that a bad thing? That would be a difference of over 100 damage with healing and damage. This is NOT counting night fall either which would further expand that damage. Also, dark has devourers to speed it up, along with other mid range damage. Entropy has neither good quanta accel for monos, or a good mid range hitter.
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Re: Obsidian Dragon(upgraded black dragon) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21421.msg1033209#msg1033209
« Reply #20 on: January 18, 2013, 03:28:11 am »
you all talk about entropy like its the only problem... Any shield screws over any vampire..ness and the cost of nightfall and devourers...they aren't that good either, devours are practically useless... they Cost 2... and they act like nothing but a pillar.. why would you pay 2 quanta to get a pillar out? Dragon and Gargoyle are the Only source of damage in Darkness and they are both expensive and weak in hp
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Re: Obsidian Dragon(upgraded black dragon) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21421.msg1033218#msg1033218
« Reply #21 on: January 18, 2013, 04:02:05 am »
you all talk about entropy like its the only problem... Any shield screws over any vampire..ness and the cost of nightfall and devourers...they aren't that good either, devours are practically useless... they Cost 2... and they act like nothing but a pillar.. why would you pay 2 quanta to get a pillar out? Dragon and Gargoyle are the Only source of damage in Darkness and they are both expensive and weak in hp
Denying quanta is NOT useless in the least, two for a potentially damaging pillar, that ALSO drain there quanta is not bad.. And as for shields, steal, enough said. And 5 quanta is not expensive, and 5 hp is not low, that is only killed by 2 CC cards in the game, barring the repeatable ones of course.
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Re: Obsidian Dragon(upgraded black dragon) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21421.msg1033226#msg1033226
« Reply #22 on: January 18, 2013, 04:45:14 am »
..Not to mention the simple fact that you guys are like mental? did you know you all talk about that crappy Eclipse thing like its free...Sorry to break the news but its not.. you realize to be 14,7 obsidian dragon...that would cost 16 darkness quanta...i more damage than sky dragon.. for +4 the cost.. yea...Obviously needs a buff, jeeze
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Re: Obsidian Dragon(upgraded black dragon) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21421.msg1033227#msg1033227
« Reply #23 on: January 18, 2013, 04:48:29 am »
LLLOOOLLL funny you say that, because devourers are USELESS lets see... vs lvl 4....lvl5....and practically Any Arena deck with Mark greater than 1... they suck, they cost 2 for No damage output, my deck just just fine without them, why doesn't anyone understand my point. think about it. Obsidian Dragons really are UP
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