[Official] Ash Eater | Brimstone Eater

[Efreet]

I probably oughtt'a shut up about anything that will give it more effectiveness against my own deck.

...lol.   8)

I'm at the point now where I kinda get the need for that extra damage. Sure as hell slows down any rush deck I've made that has no golems in it, but it's an interesting option. That said, it's still terrible compared to creatures like Dragonfly, etc. But yeah, the only sub-par niche it fills is that cheap cost attacker, which doesn't even fit for an element like fire, low-cost critters have more success as skeletons, spiders and the like. And even they have abilities!!!

I don't understand the need to cling to that extra damage, I really don't, I run a golem rush, which beats regular fire rush decks 60% of the time, having immo fodder with 2 attack hasn't made or broken for me or them...

[AquaticImpalement]

Heeeey. I think that, while a rustler-like ability would be neat, you also have to take into account that it's not made to do much on it's own. However, it can be used with other cards to your advantage. The most common one for this is Immolation. However there are other things it can do, just not on it's own. For instance, the AI will use up it's CC  on them while you keep five dragons in your hand. And I really think that if it were to be buffed, the best way to go might be to make it produce fire, possibly make it a 2/2 instead of a 2/1.

[timetock]

Compared with the other quanta generating quanta creatures... brimstone eater has the severe disadvantage of having a cost of 1 .

Why are the uses of brimstone eater forced to pack them into decks that are high generating quanta – cards that stack with quanta, like fire bolt and fahrenheit.
I believe brimstone eater should have 0 cost, making it a lot more versatile and splash-able, like the many other quanta generating creatures you see. Gemfinder is free. Damsel is free. RoL is free. Why shouldn't brimstone eater, the fire generating bug, not be free?

[Higurashi]

Well, you've kind of answered your own question there. Because Fire Bolt and Fahren offer amazing two-pronged offence. Not only does Fire Bolt scale the best out of all Bolts, but Fahren is the only automatically scaling... anything in the game (Arsenic doesn't scale, it just stacks). It'd also boost SoBe Cremation rushes considerably, but I don't really mind that.

[timetock]

yea, but if it was costless then we could splash it into life decks. go together pretty well, but we're restricted to use a mark if we want to splash. And immo rushes sadly use gnomes because they don't need anything to cast and can start combo turn one. why deny the prospect of brimstones?

[serprex]

Fire splash is attainable through immolation. Frogs are cheap

Brimstone Eater would be the strongest quanta producing creature in the game if it cost nothing (only good argument is that Damselfly is airborne and gets to evade with SoFr). Maybe you could argue for having it be 0|1, but hopefully we agree 2|1 for a cost of 1 is more thematic

[majofa]

The unupped would be usuable and the upped stats are comparable to Minor Phoenix.

[timetock]

damselfly is 2|1, why shouldn't there be another creature with 2|1 that also has zero cost? Damsel does extra damage and has a chance not to be targeted with SoFree, an added bonus. Brimstone eater has no shard to protect it from cc and dies from the smallest of cc like any other X|1 creature. The only perk it has is quanta gain, which you would use pillars/pends instead. Gnome can still survive after taking a plague or a fire shield, and RoL has a synergy with Hope. However brimstone eater seems to only with monofire or stall, comboing with Fahrenheit and Firebolt.

Why I want to buff this card, again, is to create more usable strategies and in result, more interesting games. I believe brimstone eater can be used effectively not only in a firestall that builds up quanta and KO with bolts and fahrenheit.

Phoenix has a revive passive. Also please check your card. Brimstone eater is 2|1, not 3|1. Brimstone Eater Wiki

[Blacksmith]

Brimstone eaters are great. The reason why they aren't played by many is beacuse it's often get replaced by other cards, like un upped hemites. Anyway I think making this free would make immo rushes even stronger and I don't think that is what we wan't ftm. i also think it wold lead to less creative decks when it comes to immos.

[majofa]

damselfly is 2|1, why shouldn't there be another creature with 2|1 that also has zero cost? Damsel does extra damage and has a chance not to be targeted with SoFree, an added bonus. Brimstone eater has no shard to protect it from cc and dies from the smallest of cc like any other X|1 creature. The only perk it has is quanta gain, which you would use pillars/pends instead. Gnome can still survive after taking a plague or a fire shield, and RoL has a synergy with Hope. However brimstone eater seems to only with monofire or stall, comboing with Fahrenheit and Firebolt.

Why I want to buff this card, again, is to create more usable strategies and in result, more interesting games. I believe brimstone eater can be used effectively not only in a firestall that builds up quanta and KO with bolts and fahrenheit.

Phoenix has a revive passive. Also please check your card. Brimstone eater is 2|1, not 3|1. Brimstone Eater Wiki

I'm sorry, I thought this was a buff thread??

[timetock]

damselfly is 2|1, why shouldn't there be another creature with 2|1 that also has zero cost? Damsel does extra damage and has a chance not to be targeted with SoFree, an added bonus. Brimstone eater has no shard to protect it from cc and dies from the smallest of cc like any other X|1 creature. The only perk it has is quanta gain, which you would use pillars/pends instead. Gnome can still survive after taking a plague or a fire shield, and RoL has a synergy with Hope. However brimstone eater seems to only with monofire or stall, comboing with Fahrenheit and Firebolt.

Why I want to buff this card, again, is to create more usable strategies and in result, more interesting games. I believe brimstone eater can be used effectively not only in a firestall that builds up quanta and KO with bolts and fahrenheit.

Phoenix has a revive passive. Also please check your card. Brimstone eater is 2|1, not 3|1. Brimstone Eater Wiki

I'm sorry, I thought this was a buff thread??

Oh im sorry. You created another card. :$
I suppose 3|1 would work.. the strongest quanta generating creature has a nice ring to it. (Apart from firefly).
This would be a nice buff

[Youpla]

Well, I think Brimstone Eater is good as it is now, but Ash Eater is not so used.