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Re: arctic squid l arctic octopus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21049.msg271073#msg271073
« Reply #36 on: February 15, 2011, 02:08:56 am »
How about :water :earth?  Not the most common combo, I admit, but Plate Armor is pretty nifty and cheap, and you get Trident in the bargain if you like.  Or just run Earth mark with cheap cards like Plate Armor, Basilisk Blood, PA for your Permafrost...

"Elements that go well with each other" is a REALLY loose concept.  Sure, there are cards like FFQ, Steam Machine, etc. that create "natural" synergies, but most duo-element combos are pretty viable if played right.  Light doesn't have an obvious synergy with Entropy, but using the two in combination isn't bad.

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Re: arctic squid l arctic octopus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21049.msg271253#msg271253
« Reply #37 on: February 15, 2011, 12:39:15 pm »
yeah but that is only one case in which it would work. everyone else is left out and that even tactic may fail as it is quite possible that trident may be having a complete make over.

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Re: arctic squid l arctic octopus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21049.msg271546#msg271546
« Reply #38 on: February 15, 2011, 11:49:42 pm »
Arctic Squid used to be badass, no doubt.  But just in the last few updates, suddenly almost every element has access to either easy creature control, skill removal, or in Life's case, Adrenaline.   There's no longer any reason for the Squid to be any scarier than an Otyugh -- in many cases, it's much less scary.  It shouldn't be rare anymore, and it certainly could use with -1 ATK (to avoid Fire Shield/Skull Buckler/Thorn Carapace) and possibly +2 HP (to avoid RoF/unpowered Bolts.)
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Re: arctic squid l arctic octopus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21049.msg271631#msg271631
« Reply #39 on: February 16, 2011, 02:21:00 am »
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yeah but that is only one case in which it would work. everyone else is left out and that even tactic may fail as it is quite possible that trident may be having a complete make over.
OK, two things... first, that is far from being the only combo that would work, and second, it doesn't rely on Trident.  Trident is just icing.

Other combos with Arctic Squid (but NOT the only remaining ones):
- :water/ :light with Blessings.  I actually ran this type of deck during Trials, and even though I lost that game, Squid turned out to be one of the more important cards in my deck.
- :water/ :entropy with Chaos Power run off the mark.
- :water/ :life with Mitosis and Forest Spirits.
- :water/ :death with Aflatoxin/Permafrost stall - poison still acts when frozen.  Control isn't too much of a concern since the stall will work without the Squids if necessary.
- :water/ :gravity pend-deck with flying Titans and Catapults.  The idea would be to use the Squids for double duty, stalling for a while before unleashing a frozen OTK straight from your hand.
- :water/ :fire steam readiness combo in T50 I mentioned earlier.  I think Essence himself had one up, could be mistaken.  Maybe you beat it, but that doesn't mean it isn't good.

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Re: arctic squid l arctic octopus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21049.msg271640#msg271640
« Reply #40 on: February 16, 2011, 02:33:40 am »
Yeah, I remember getting my ass completely KILLED by a :water / :death Plague/Squid stall in a CL game.  Don't remember who is was against, but it was a veteran that completely caught me off guard with that deck. :)
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Re: arctic squid l arctic octopus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21049.msg271644#msg271644
« Reply #41 on: February 16, 2011, 02:38:08 am »
Not to mention Chrysaora fits that combo like a glove.

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Re: arctic squid l arctic octopus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21049.msg271925#msg271925
« Reply #42 on: February 16, 2011, 04:51:25 pm »
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yeah but that is only one case in which it would work. everyone else is left out and that even tactic may fail as it is quite possible that trident may be having a complete make over.
OK, two things... first, that is far from being the only combo that would work, and second, it doesn't rely on Trident.  Trident is just icing.

Other combos with Arctic Squid (but NOT the only remaining ones):
- :water/ :light with Blessings.  I actually ran this type of deck during Trials, and even though I lost that game, Squid turned out to be one of the more important cards in my deck.
- :water/ :entropy with Chaos Power run off the mark.
- :water/ :life with Mitosis and Forest Spirits.
- :water/ :death with Aflatoxin/Permafrost stall - poison still acts when frozen.  Control isn't too much of a concern since the stall will work without the Squids if necessary.
- :water/ :gravity pend-deck with flying Titans and Catapults.  The idea would be to use the Squids for double duty, stalling for a while before unleashing a frozen OTK straight from your hand.
- :water/ :fire steam readiness combo in T50 I mentioned earlier.  I think Essence himself had one up, could be mistaken.  Maybe you beat it, but that doesn't mean it isn't good.
the trouble with that list of combos is that it requires the squid to be given some kind of power or health increase. what if you had a bad draw? by my reckoning that wont be that uncommon. besides i'm talking about the squid alone getting a buff and not having to waste valuable cards on it only for it to get rewound or hit by something big. plus that is only a very small amount of tactics that involve the arctic squid. lets face it, it's a RARE card that takes some grinding to get that has a high ability cost, very very low defence against cc, and it belongs to an already unfortunate element that has a few dud cards. these include flooding/inundation, and trident (which can only be used in one combo). as i've said millions of times, watre deserves some better cards and buffs.

Re: arctic squid l arctic octopus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21049.msg272422#msg272422
« Reply #43 on: February 17, 2011, 04:58:08 am »
In most cases I wouldn't bother, but as I said before "if you plan on making a permanent home in this section, please wipe your feet at the door". Now, I do have a mop and brush handy with me at all times, but even someone as patient, hardworking and generally amazing as me needs a break sometime.

So here, I am going to remind you again that you need to post a picture. (You need to post a picture) It's really quite simple. Below, I have quoted jmizzle7's thread. Now, what you do, is quote it again. Copy and paste the image code. Then, put it in your post!



Discuss.
However, there are a couple of little things that separate the masses from the classes. Since you spend a lot of time in this section, you may have seen Plastiqe's Nerf Supernova thread, or Kael's Buff Nightmare thread. They are pretty cool. It makes a poor young maid like me swoon to see such beauty and class in our guests and their tastes. Obviously, they make theirs super awesome, and obviously not everyone can do that. (It would be like if every single person wore an expensive italian suit, it would lose its appeal) But you should be able to see that they get better responses. And there are some things in their threads that wouldn't be too hard to translate over to some of yours.
1) Interesting and thought out poll options.
2) Capital letters

Now, if you could do all this, it would be awesome for me. And you might even get the wark fuzzies too, or just the feeling you get when you buy/wear something new. But if you can't, could we at least work on the pictures? :)

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Re: arctic squid l arctic octopus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21049.msg272632#msg272632
« Reply #44 on: February 17, 2011, 04:14:20 pm »
thanks for the reminder DD. i was going to put a pic in after your last post but i clean forgot.

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Re: arctic squid l arctic octopus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21049.msg278051#msg278051
« Reply #45 on: February 25, 2011, 12:43:47 am »
ok this card is now recieving a buff. no need to discuss further. "if you want to go to the card changes" section.

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Re: arctic squid l arctic octopus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21049.msg278052#msg278052
« Reply #46 on: February 25, 2011, 12:44:44 am »
case rested - topic terminated

 

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