[Official] Arctic Squid l Arctic Octopus

[killybob]

no no it's usage is like most other rares. it sticks to it's element. the problem as i keep on saying is it's lack of ability to survive. i don't care how much it's cost goes up by, it just needs a health buff otherwise it will continue being a very rarely used (even in it's own element) card that is only good for selling.

[Time_lord_victorius]

i voted for -1 ability cost because 3 to freeze a creature for 2 turns is quite expansive (1.5  /per turn) while compared to freeze (cost 2 ) for the same effect. i think it should be lowered to be the same cost as freeze/congeal because it seems pretty fair like that.

i see this card better played with aether (synergy between the squid and mindflayer) and you gain access to quintescence. which is pretty neat.

[ArtCrusade]

i voted for -1 ability cost because 3 to freeze a creature for 2 turns is quite expansive (1.5  /per turn) while compared to freeze (cost 2 ) for the same effect. i think it should be lowered to be the same cost as freeze/congeal because it seems pretty fair like that.

i see this card better played with aether (synergy between the squid and mindflayer) and you gain access to quintescence. which is pretty neat.

I thought Freeze lasted 3 turns, and Congeal 4 turns, so 1 turn would be 1 for the unupped version, and 0.75 for the upgraded one, so thanks for clearing that up.. besides, lowering it to the same cost as Freeze/Congeal has sounds ridiculous, because the Squid acts as a spell-on-a-stick - which means that you can reuse it which gives you a card advantage.

I stand by my suggestion of lowering its attack power and increasing its defense.

[killybob]

lowering the attack is in my opinion a buff. it adds to it's defence. my suggestion is -1 attack and plus 2 hp.

[OldTrees]

0Atk|6HP for the same Cost sounds fair

[killybob]

hmm i think 6 may be a little too much but since i want a good buff i'd be more than delighted with that

[Essence]

-1 ATK should be a poll option.  It's all the beasty really needs, IMHO.

[killybob]

ok, i have altered and reset the poll. less damage is now an option.

[RootRanger]

Saying "less attack" by itself is a nerf. Perhaps "less attack and more hp" would be better to make it a buff?

[killybob]

surely that would be better agreed over the discussion. besides it will save me a little effort

[johannhowitzer]

I see no reason to buff this.  On its own with enough production it can lock down 3-4 enemy creatures, and packing several in a stall-themed deck is enough to counter most serious CC sources.  If it's too fragile, Bless it or something.

Seriously, have you ever fought those Steam Squid Readiness decks in T50?  *shudders*

[killybob]

you find those decks annoying? personally i have never lost to that tactic. anyway there are not many elements that go well with water that have hp buffs. also there are not many silly enough to buff a creature that is not even the main attacker. squid cost lots to maintain AND are very weak. as i said before, water really deserves some better stuff.