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Re: Antlion/Elite Antlion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12781.msg262137#msg262137
« Reply #24 on: February 01, 2011, 08:19:17 pm »
idk why it has burrow, the only reason people use it is for the 2:1 attack to cost ratio. That goes away with burrow. And everyone uses graboid more than this anyways.

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Re: Antlion/Elite Antlion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12781.msg262826#msg262826
« Reply #25 on: February 02, 2011, 05:24:40 pm »
if you ask me it doesn't matter if it has a good attack to cost ratio since the damage it does is a little lack lustre and not really worth putting into your deck.

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Re: Antlion/Elite Antlion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12781.msg262927#msg262927
« Reply #26 on: February 02, 2011, 08:11:57 pm »
That's not wrong, but it is a rush card. It's useless if the opponent draws a shield, but in an antlion/graboid/golem rush it doesn't matter. You should be fast enough, and the risk is spread. And..better a dead antlion than a dead shrieker.

In other words, in the opening hand the small hitters give you initiative and early damage. This is annoying, because it's harder to come back from for the opponent.

I do agree burrowing is useless. Even a plain creature at 4-2 is still ok though. 
Shards aren't overpowered, as long as you have them yourself.

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[Official] Antlion | Elite Antlion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12781.msg362531#msg362531
« Reply #27 on: July 07, 2011, 09:10:16 pm »
NAME:
Antlion
ELEMENT:
Earth
COST:
2 :earth
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
2|3
TEXT:
The antlion ignores most shields while burrowed.
:earth : Burrow
NAME:
Elite Antlion
ELEMENT:
Earth
COST:
2 :earth
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
4|4
TEXT:
The antlion ignores most shields while burrowed.
:earth : Burrow
ART:
elements the game
IDEA:
moomoose
NOTES:
antlion needs some love.  im not saying this will make it a super desirable card, but at the moment there is no reason to pick up an antlion over a grabloid or steel golem.  the attack value will still be cut in half while burrowed, but burrowed is an established mechanic and does not need to be written out- see devourer/pest if you disagree.

the shields which cannot be ignored include: wings, phase shield and hope.

i probably will never submit this to level 1, as i dont want to waste one of my 2 submissions per week on this.  just putting it out there.
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Re: Antlion | Elite Antlion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12781.msg362828#msg362828
« Reply #28 on: July 08, 2011, 03:46:26 pm »
I like the idea and I agree that antlion needs some love. However, I don't think this added effect would help it all that much. In usage at least.
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Re: Antlion | Elite Antlion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12781.msg362835#msg362835
« Reply #29 on: July 08, 2011, 03:59:14 pm »
Maybe the Antlion could have a Special Passive Ability:

"Low Blow: When Burrowed, Antlion ignores certain shields"

Those Shields would be:
Shield
Titanium Shield
Permafrost Shield
Thorn Caprice
Emerald Shield
Solar Shield
Fire Shield
Procrastination
Skull Shield (Stops 1 Damage)
Weight Shield


But cant ignore:
Hope
Dimensional Shield
Dissapation Shield
Fog Shield
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Re: Antlion | Elite Antlion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12781.msg362883#msg362883
« Reply #30 on: July 08, 2011, 05:37:34 pm »
I would almost want to see AntLion with some sort of swarm ability. so when burrowed, antlion gains x attack with X being the number of burrowed antlions on the field.
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Re: Antlion | Elite Antlion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12781.msg362961#msg362961
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Re: Antlion | Elite Antlion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12781.msg362985#msg362985
« Reply #32 on: July 08, 2011, 09:26:59 pm »
Maybe the Antlion could have a Special Passive Ability:

"Low Blow: When Burrowed, Antlion ignores certain shields"
This sounds interesting and might make it viable in decks without PC. Or what about giving it momentum (without added attack) altogether when it is burrowed?

I would almost want to see AntLion with some sort of swarm ability. so when burrowed, antlion gains x attack with X being the number of burrowed antlions on the field.
Cool idea but is it easy to implement (coding wise) ?

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Re: Antlion | Elite Antlion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12781.msg362986#msg362986
« Reply #33 on: July 08, 2011, 09:29:56 pm »
I would almost want to see AntLion with some sort of swarm ability. so when burrowed, antlion gains x attack with X being the number of burrowed antlions on the field.
Cool idea but is it easy to implement (coding wise) ?
Shouldn't be way too different from coding for Scarab's variable HP (due to Swarm).
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Re: Antlion | Elite Antlion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12781.msg363008#msg363008
« Reply #34 on: July 08, 2011, 10:13:32 pm »
Antlions with Swarm and Burrow would suddenly make them useful again.  It doesn't need to be much of an attack boost at all, but you'd have to unburrow to make more of them.

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Re: Antlion | Elite Antlion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12781.msg363022#msg363022
« Reply #35 on: July 08, 2011, 11:39:26 pm »
I was faster (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,12781.0.html)
i didnt post it here, i was messing around in the CIA forum and it was moved here.  i thought it had to be in some sort of poll format to be here.
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