[Official] Antlion | Elite Antlion

[Alchemist]

ARTHANASIOS @

Dude, I replied to you already when I said you make no point, I don't know how you've missed it. And few hints about posting. 1st, stick to the topic. 2nd: if something you might wanna say "sounds" like truth or something very smart, it's maybe because it's obvious and trivial.

[freemod1espilon]

Back to the topic at hand would antlion be balance if it got a burrowed ability or a stat boost? Really I would like to hear

[Daytripper]

Back to the topic at hand would antlion be balance if it got a burrowed ability or a stat boost? Really I would like to hear

Burrowed antlion does laughable damage while burrowed, even with your earlier suggestion of ignoring shields. Why pay 3  for a burrowed antlion if a golem for  4 does 3 x the damage?

Also a boost as such is not warranted, it's clearly OP. You don't want to get near the golem with stats anyway, you'd be endangering the diversity. You don't get around it that with the stats it has, a good ability is clearly OP. The only reason it has ''burrowed'' now is because it's useless and no one cares to complain.

I said it before, but the only thing I can think of is: Better ability, even at increased cost. (Berf) 

[freemod1espilon]

Back to the topic at hand would antlion be balance if it got a burrowed ability or a stat boost? Really I would like to hear

Burrowed antlion does laughable damage while burrowed, even with your earlier suggestion of ignoring shields. Why pay 3  for a burrowed antlion if a golem for  4 does 3 x the damage?

Also a boost as such is not warranted, it's clearly OP. You don't want to get near the golem with stats anyway, you'd be endangering the diversity. You don't get around it that with the stats it has, a good ability is clearly OP. The only reason it has ''burrowed'' now is because it's useless and no one cares to complain.

I said it before, but the only thing I can think of is: Better ability, even at increased cost. (Berf)

I point out the earlier suggestion of Antlion devouring to un burrow and the burrow again to eat even more stuff to me it make it seem very well rounded with that

[Daytripper]

[/quote] I point out the earlier suggestion of Antlion devouring to un burrow and the burrow again to eat even more stuff to me it make it seem very well rounded with that
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I can't find who said that. As you explained it I'm quite confused.

[freemod1espilon]

I point out the earlier suggestion of Antlion devouring to un burrow and the burrow again to eat even more stuff to me it make it seem very well rounded with that
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I can't find who said that. As you explained it I'm quite confused.
[/quote] It is the first post on the 4th page I didn't explain very well and is in't the quote thing not suppose to show up?

[Daytripper]

I guess.

If you mean some sort of burrowed oty it may be a little OP. And nicked from oty. I dunno it depends how it works exactly and what it costs.

[freemod1espilon]

The damage would never actually go up with out a buff because of the rounding down of burrow and it could only be used every 2 turns and it would require a plate armor type thing or else it would probably never get very far plus it would most likely still use  so it would need a duo to most effective

[Daytripper]

So, in effect, the burrowed antlion ambushes a <4 creature. It loses the +1 attack when burrowing again. However an Oty also gains 1HP. The next time it can attack a <5 creature. Not sure you were thinking that as well.

Since it's so slow to burrow every time it is probably not OP. Thematically I'm on the fence. Looks like oty and it's a form of hard CC.

Overall, I could live with the suggestion.

[freemod1espilon]

Thats pretty much what it ment I think but since it would theoretically require gravity it would 4 out of 5 times as far as I can see be less useful than the mono oty plus it always has 1 less hp when upped

[OdinVanguard]

So after some thinking, one interesting and easy way to potentially buff antlion would simply be to have it enter the game burrowed.
There are several advantages to this and it opens up 2 very useful water synergies and 1 amusing entropy synergy.

1) It makes antlion inherently harder to deal with. Right now it is easily killable via CC before it can ever protect itself.
2) Burrow protects from flooding, so this card has great potential as a flood combo.
3) Starting burrowed would make them amusing to use in a pandemonium based deck.
4) Burrowed creatures can benefit doubly from SoPa. If antlion starts burrowed, it gets 1 extra turn of doubled burrow SoPa synergy. A guaranteed +4 attack damage when popping out of burrow the next turn is a big bonus.

[dawn to dusk]

That would be a good idea for a buff imo, but attack should be raise or at least have it burrowed at 2 attack. That way, there's a purpose to want to keep it burrowed