[Official] Antlion | Elite Antlion

[freemod1espilon]

Guys, upped Antlions are a fine upgraded creature. As for unupped versions of Antlions, let me remind you of Blue Crawlers, Graviton Mercenaries, Skeletons & Abominations; all of these have better reasons to complain. 

A card is UP but should be ignored because there are other UP cards that we can simultaneously petition for buffing?

Describe "simultaneously" please because where i'm from it is used like 3 different ways so i'm not sure which way you mean

[ARTHANASIOS]

Guys, upped Antlions are a fine upgraded creature. As for unupped versions of Antlions, let me remind you of Blue Crawlers, Graviton Mercenaries, Skeletons & Abominations; all of these have better reasons to complain. 

A card is UP but should be ignored because there are other UP cards that we can simultaneously petition for buffing?

 Actually, we should ignore it because all these unupped cards who seem UP are fun to use and actually useful in PvP1, in mono-decks of their element and in early stages of the game (like when you farm AI 2 or 3). Elements is a pretty balanced game in general. These cards are not even as UP as most people think, they are just slightly UP in comparison with other ones of their level. In my humble opinion, every card seems UP in comparison with most upgraded shards, so we have to buff almost every non-rare card, LOL!

[Alchemist]

Guys, upped Antlions are a fine upgraded creature. As for unupped versions of Antlions, let me remind you of Blue Crawlers, Graviton Mercenaries, Skeletons & Abominations; all of these have better reasons to complain. 

A card is UP but should be ignored because there are other UP cards that we can simultaneously petition for buffing?

Describe "simultaneously" please because where i'm from it is used like 3 different ways so i'm not sure which way you mean

This might help, enjoy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrZjIzulles

[Alchemist]

Actually, we should ignore it because all these unupped cards who seem UP are fun to use and actually useful in PvP1, in mono-decks of their element and in early stages of the game (like when you farm AI 2 or 3). Elements is a pretty balanced game in general. These cards are not even as UP as most people think, they are just slightly UP in comparison with other ones of their level. In my humble opinion, every card seems UP in comparison with most upgraded shards, so we have to buff almost every non-rare card, LOL!

Dude, an upgraded shard means nothing without a card which will back it up. No point of having upped SoR without Silurian dragon or Anubis. Deck purely made of rares is usually a crap without "non-rare" cards which have role to actually DO the dirty work. Shards and rares are here to make that work more efficient, not to replace every other card. So I LOL right back at you and your "humble" opinion.

[ARTHANASIOS]

Actually, we should ignore it because all these unupped cards who seem UP are fun to use and actually useful in PvP1, in mono-decks of their element and in early stages of the game (like when you farm AI 2 or 3). Elements is a pretty balanced game in general. These cards are not even as UP as most people think, they are just slightly UP in comparison with other ones of their level. In my humble opinion, every card seems UP in comparison with most upgraded shards, so we have to buff almost every non-rare card, LOL!

Dude, an upgraded shard means nothing without a card which will back it up. No point of having upped SoR without Silurian dragon or Anubis. Deck purely made of rares is usually a crap without "non-rare" cards which have role to actually DO the dirty work. Shards and rares are here to make that work more efficient, not to replace every other card. So I LOL right back at you and your "humble" opinion.

Here it is, a powerful deck using only Shards: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,31532.0.html

[mesaprotector]

Tbh, I like this card as a semi-vanilla, and upped it's actually pretty good. Unupped it sucks (why the heck would you want to burrow it?), but so do some other cards, like Reflective Shield and Graviton Merc. And even unupped it's usable as a cheap attacker to complement the golem and shrieker.

[Alchemist]

Actually, we should ignore it because all these unupped cards who seem UP are fun to use and actually useful in PvP1, in mono-decks of their element and in early stages of the game (like when you farm AI 2 or 3). Elements is a pretty balanced game in general. These cards are not even as UP as most people think, they are just slightly UP in comparison with other ones of their level. In my humble opinion, every card seems UP in comparison with most upgraded shards, so we have to buff almost every non-rare card, LOL!

Dude, an upgraded shard means nothing without a card which will back it up. No point of having upped SoR without Silurian dragon or Anubis. Deck purely made of rares is usually a crap without "non-rare" cards which have role to actually DO the dirty work. Shards and rares are here to make that work more efficient, not to replace every other card. So I LOL right back at you and your "humble" opinion.

Here it is, a powerful deck using only Shards: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,31532.0.html

No, actually it DOESN'T. If you look better, you will see 2 Long swords, which "do the dirty work". And you have really proven exactly what you are trying to oppose. That the game lacks balance. And you are actually admirer (and abuser) of that fact, cause you probably hate fair fights. HAVING rare is determining factor for victory in your opinion. In that case, no point for other cards at all, so no point for buffing them. OK, you made your point - no point.

[Daytripper]

To be serious again, I am a fan of the little cards and I endorse creating some use for them. The antlion is just cannon fodder unupped. Upped antlion is actually not a bad card. Four attack is really good for 2  objectively. Problem is earth has 2 main attackers and 4 attack is a tad light for a main attacker anyway. Burrowed you got 2 attack, which is utterly unimpressive to useless in case of a shield. The borrowing is already nicked from the shrieker anyway, which you might burrow to save it. That means you have an ability which is neither very useful or very original for antlion.

For the record, I did use antlions in ultimate ultimate rush decks to complement the Graboids/golems. It's fun but once you have 12 attackers the rest is near redundant really. Against a real deck, heavy attackers and some spells are almost always better than 17-18 attackers.

I would like a cool ability. Since the earth animals dig, I prefer sand bagging of sorts. In other words, if the antlion throws sand certain target(s) can lose accuracy for X amount of turns. It can be cumulative or not. Another idea is to target the perma's to delay those.

Finally, if nobody likes that, I would suggest active burrowing. The antlion covers friend (or foe) in sand. This protects the target, but also halfs attack.

I don't care if it costs more, so I'm not suggesting a buf as such. I just think this can cause people to experiment, play, and enjoy the card more.   

[OldTrees]

Guys, upped Antlions are a fine upgraded creature. As for unupped versions of Antlions, let me remind you of Blue Crawlers, Graviton Mercenaries, Skeletons & Abominations; all of these have better reasons to complain. 

A card is UP but should be ignored because there are other UP cards that we can simultaneously petition for buffing?

Describe "simultaneously" please because where i'm from it is used like 3 different ways so i'm not sure which way you mean

We can suggest all UP get buffed and all OP cards get nerfed. Each has a thread that we can contribute on and support. We can support all such buffs without any of those petitions being worse off because we were supporting another worthy card.

[freemod1espilon]

Guys, upped Antlions are a fine upgraded creature. As for unupped versions of Antlions, let me remind you of Blue Crawlers, Graviton Mercenaries, Skeletons & Abominations; all of these have better reasons to complain. 

A card is UP but should be ignored because there are other UP cards that we can simultaneously petition for buffing?

Describe "simultaneously" please because where i'm from it is used like 3 different ways so i'm not sure which way you mean

We can suggest all UP get buffed and all OP cards get nerfed. Each has a thread that we can contribute on and support. We can support all such buffs without any of those petitions being worse off because we were supporting another worthy card.

Thank you That makes more sense than I could make out of it so I agree with that statement

[ARTHANASIOS]

Actually, we should ignore it because all these unupped cards who seem UP are fun to use and actually useful in PvP1, in mono-decks of their element and in early stages of the game (like when you farm AI 2 or 3). Elements is a pretty balanced game in general. These cards are not even as UP as most people think, they are just slightly UP in comparison with other ones of their level. In my humble opinion, every card seems UP in comparison with most upgraded shards, so we have to buff almost every non-rare card, LOL!

Dude, an upgraded shard means nothing without a card which will back it up. No point of having upped SoR without Silurian dragon or Anubis. Deck purely made of rares is usually a crap without "non-rare" cards which have role to actually DO the dirty work. Shards and rares are here to make that work more efficient, not to replace every other card. So I LOL right back at you and your "humble" opinion.

Here it is, a powerful deck using only Shards: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,31532.0.html

No, actually it DOESN'T. If you look better, you will see 2 Long swords, which "do the dirty work". And you have really proven exactly what you are trying to oppose. That the game lacks balance. And you are actually admirer (and abuser) of that fact, cause you probably hate fair fights. HAVING rare is determining factor for victory in your opinion. In that case, no point for other cards at all, so no point for buffing them. OK, you made your point - no point.

 I never said this game is perfectly balanced, but I always supported that Elements is by far more balanced than other TCG (like Yu-Gi-Oh and Magic: The Gathering). In Elements, the unbalancing issues are about slighly OP or UP cards, while in other famous trading card games the unbalancing issues are colossal. That's why I view Elements as an overall pretty balanced game, nothing more and nothing less.
 About those little balancing changes, I continue to support about nerfing the shards. Other/neutral cards (like shards) can become really powerful, because they can be used in every element and paid with any kind of quanta. For me, nerfing the Shards is more important than buffing cards like Antlions, Daggers, Skeletons, Fate Eggs, Abominations, Blue Crawlers etc.
 By the way, two Longswords never do the dirty work just by themselves. You are mentioning a secondary card as the primary strategy of that deck. Do not reply back to me and even if you do I will avoid to answer, since you are trolling for sure. Goodbye...

[OldTrees]

For me, nerfing the Shards is more important than buffing cards like Antlions, Daggers, Skeletons, Fate Eggs, Abominations, Blue Crawlers etc.

I am able to support both causes. So can you. How are these other compatible causes relevant to this thread?