[Official] Antlion | Elite Antlion

[glopso]

Honestly the swarm Idea is pretty cool and would be awesome if implemented, although why not make it 3/2 and prevent it from loosing any attack when it burrows?

wouldn't prevent it from losing any, would still round down.

I think they meant that it would be coded so that it stayed at 3/2 when it burrowed.

Upped antlion doesn't really need a nerf. 2  for a 4|4 creature is pretty good.

There are still some creatures that have better ratios, and decks that produce a lot of quanta don't necessarily need to worry about quanta efficiency as much.

[furballdn]

Upped antlion doesn't really need a nerf. 2  for a 4|4 creature is pretty good.

There are still some creatures that have better ratios, and decks that produce a lot of quanta don't necessarily need to worry about quanta efficiency as much.

Very true, but for some decks, like a graboid rush, it helps to put in the spare 2  quanta into something able to do 4 damage per turn. A creature with a damage to quanta ratio of 2 is pretty good. Unupped antlion is pretty abysmal. Why would you play a 2 creature that only has 2|3 stats?

[glopso]

Sometimes extra quanta is good, depending on the kind of deck you're using. If you really think that a graboid rush deck has too much quanta then remove pillars, as adding in antlions will make it slower. Antlions being able to swarm while burrowing sounds interesting, or bypassing shields. I think watching which setups break due to this would be interesting too.

[silux]

Actually antlion would be awesome with andrenaline, but 2 , 4 , 2 cards are way too much for 8 damage.
3 atk would make the combo way more appealing, even considered the 2atk loss when burrowed

[Calindu]

Actually antlion would be awesome with andrenaline, but 2 , 4 , 2 cards are way too much for 8 damage.
3 atk would make the combo way more appealing, even considered the 2atk loss when burrowed

Ehem, *points at graboid*

[Pineapple]

Actually antlion would be awesome with andrenaline, but 2 , 4 , 2 cards are way too much for 8 damage.
3 atk would make the combo way more appealing, even considered the 2atk loss when burrowed

Ehem, *points at graboid*

It wouldn't be the same as graboid because graboid isn't targetable.
It wouldn't be OP for being targetable because it's not graboid. The reason graboid would be OP if targetable would be because of fractal and mitosis, since it can evolve into shrieker.

[glopso]

Give the antlions a caste system

[furballdn]

Actually antlion would be awesome with andrenaline, but 2 , 4 , 2 cards are way too much for 8 damage.
3 atk would make the combo way more appealing, even considered the 2atk loss when burrowed

Ehem, *points at graboid*

It wouldn't be the same as graboid because graboid isn't targetable.
It wouldn't be OP for being targetable because it's not graboid. The reason graboid would be OP if targetable would be because of fractal and mitosis, since it can evolve into shrieker.

That reminds me of the time I fractalled werewolves. It was quite powerful and fun. Graboid's inability to being fractaled also gives it near invincibility (especially on the first turn), and for a creature like that in a growth/quick rainbow deck, that's extremely useful.

[Captain Scibra]

Keep as is.  Antlion is a great cheap Earth target to buff, and then burrow if necessary.

[CCCombobreaker]

Antlion may be one of the most underpowered and undesirable cards in the game (people make decks around Scrhoppies cat still for some reason...).  To ever be considered it does need a buff. 

Keep as is.  Antlion is a great cheap Earth target to buff, and then burrow if necessary.

Grabboids cost 1 more for the SAME card except it comes into play burrowed and for 1 it turns into and 8/3.  Either of those is worth paying 1 more.  Gnome rider costs 1 less but then offsets its own cost at end of turn and then generates as long as it lives.  It also can be buffed.

The simple fact that unupped this card has virtually no use is documented by a simple search for "58p 58p 58p 58p 58p 58p".  There are 7 results.  Try it with "590 590 590 590 590 590".  OVER 9000 results.  You say... but that's grabboids, everyone loves them.  OK.  Try "58u 58u 58u 58u 58u 58u".  About 1400 finds for 6 gnome riders.  Almost 1200 for 6 hematite golems.  Over 1200 for stone dragons. 

That means if you stumble across a deck anywhere on the site with 6 copies of a creature from ... it is about 200 times more likely to be dragons, golems, or gnomeriders than atlions.  (and over 1000x more likely to be grabboids than antlions)

Upped this card is legit: 2 for a 4/4 that can burrow?  Cool.  It has a place in the game. 

I am one of antlion's biggest fans and I still just can't afford to use them any time winning matters.  Please buff them.  I think 3/3 for 2 unupped is all it needs.

[furballdn]

Antlions aren't used because they're attack is a lowly 2, which isn't very useful for a summoning cost of 2 . Their ability is also useless, so that is why you see cat decks and gnome decks, but not antlions. Besides, like CCC said, Graboid costs the exact same for the exact same damage and comes in burrowed with the ability to gain 6 atk for 1 . Upped antlion is a tiny bit more useful, with an attack to cost ratio of 2, but if you can fit an Upped antlion in your deck, why not replace it with a graboid?

[Contrary]

Challenge: Make the absolute best deck you can with 5-6 Antlions.