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Re: Abomination (unnuped only) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14550.msg1174006#msg1174006
« Reply #108 on: January 04, 2015, 03:15:35 am »
It might be a bad idea to buff the stats as this is also a side-effect from Mutation. Lowering the cost would also cause a powercreep, too (compare to gravity and earth beatsticks). If it really needs a buff, I'd just raise its HP to 6, at most.

Though I liked the idea of making it produce a superior mutant even when targeted by an unupped mutation. I wonder where I found that suggestion...

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Re: Abomination (unnuped only) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14550.msg1174010#msg1174010
« Reply #109 on: January 04, 2015, 03:27:21 am »
The upped version doesn't need a buff either. 1  :entropy for 2/4 is a pretty good deal, and more efficient than 5 :entropy for 5/5. The card is balanced, upped and unupped. I see no reason to change it.
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Re: Abomination (unnuped only) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14550.msg1174012#msg1174012
« Reply #110 on: January 04, 2015, 04:21:17 am »
The upped version doesn't need a buff either. 1  :entropy for 2/4 is a pretty good deal, and more efficient than 5 :entropy for 5/5. The card is balanced, upped and unupped. I see no reason to change it.

Upped is actually 2|6, which means it survives a lightning or a rage pot

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Re: Abomination (unnuped only) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14550.msg1174016#msg1174016
« Reply #111 on: January 04, 2015, 04:31:03 am »
The upped version doesn't need a buff either. 1  :entropy for 2/4 is a pretty good deal, and more efficient than 5 :entropy for 5/5. The card is balanced, upped and unupped. I see no reason to change it.

Upped is actually 2|6, which means it survives a lightning or a rage pot

Er... whut? No it's 2|4. Unless Zanz released a new patch update within yesterday...
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Re: Abomination (unnuped only) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14550.msg1174020#msg1174020
« Reply #112 on: January 04, 2015, 04:49:07 am »
The upped version doesn't need a buff either. 1  :entropy for 2/4 is a pretty good deal, and more efficient than 5 :entropy for 5/5. The card is balanced, upped and unupped. I see no reason to change it.

Upped is actually 2|6, which means it survives a lightning or a rage pot

Er... whut? No it's 2|4. Unless Zanz released a new patch update within yesterday...

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Re: Abomination (unnuped only) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14550.msg1174051#msg1174051
« Reply #113 on: January 04, 2015, 07:59:13 am »
The upped version doesn't need a buff either. 1  :entropy for 2/4 is a pretty good deal, and more efficient than 5 :entropy for 5/5. The card is balanced, upped and unupped. I see no reason to change it.
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Re: Abomination (unnuped only) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14550.msg1174103#msg1174103
« Reply #114 on: January 04, 2015, 03:52:06 pm »
Abom is used plenty. No reason to change it for balance reasons. It's boring though; I've always thought it could use a Mutation bonus, but nothing that'll make it way stronger. Maybe just change the Mutation odds to 0% death, 20% Abom, 80% mutant (or even 0% Abom, 100% mutant). Would mostly help Fallen Elf decks, but also Mutation+PU rushes.
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Re: Abomination (unnuped only) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14550.msg1174104#msg1174104
« Reply #115 on: January 04, 2015, 03:54:31 pm »
Abom is used plenty. No reason to change it for balance reasons. It's boring though; I've always thought it could use a Mutation bonus, but nothing that'll make it way stronger. Maybe just change the Mutation odds to 0% death, 20% Abom, 80% mutant (or even 0% Abom, 100% mutant). Would mostly help Fallen Elf decks, but also Mutation+PU rushes.
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Re: Abomination (unnuped only) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14550.msg1186753#msg1186753
« Reply #116 on: April 17, 2015, 12:36:00 pm »
The upped version doesn't need a buff either. 1  :entropy for 2/4 is a pretty good deal, and more efficient than 5 :entropy for 5/5. The card is balanced, upped and unupped. I see no reason to change it.


Problem is, :gravity is a totally different element than :entropy. :gravity needs its extra hp to compete with the rest while :entropy is probably the most versatile element in mixed meta (mixed=both upped & unupped).

Micro Abomination exists for Fallen :life :entropy duos, much like Cat exists for  :entropy :death duos.
Let's say you make a :life :entropy deck, containing many :life goodies like Adrenaline, Mitosis, Bonds etc. as well as :entropy goodies like BE, Antimatter etc.  The combo is to spam as many Aboms as possible and mutate them even further with Elves/Druids. What kind of Abomination would you like to have in this case? The unupped one which takes 5 :entropy to mitosise itself or the upped one which has sweet Adren spot, sweet BE spot, a cost of 1 :entropy that is easy to mitosise and heal yourself with bonds as well as being durable enough to withstand most CCs (unlike Photons that everything kills them)? Moreover, Fallen Elf (or Druid) & Micro & Mitosis = unupped Abomination (or superior mutant) spamming just for 1 :life & 1 :entropy quanta.
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Re: [Official] Abomination | Micro Abomination https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14550.msg1191808#msg1191808
« Reply #117 on: June 05, 2015, 09:57:30 am »
Buffing the card, Micro Abomination anyway, would make the False God (can't remember the name) that Fractals them even more powerful, which is something we don't really need in the first place.

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Re: [Official] Abomination | Micro Abomination https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14550.msg1191818#msg1191818
« Reply #118 on: June 05, 2015, 10:25:36 am »
Buffing the card, Micro Abomination anyway, would make the False God (can't remember the name) that Fractals them even more powerful, which is something we don't really need in the first place.

The fact that buffing the card would make 1 False God more powerful out of the 29 is less important than the fact that the card would be more useful in general - especially so since that FG could be rebalanced
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Re: [Official] Abomination | Micro Abomination https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14550.msg1191819#msg1191819
« Reply #119 on: June 05, 2015, 10:28:29 am »
Buffing the card, Micro Abomination anyway, would make the False God (can't remember the name) that Fractals them even more powerful, which is something we don't really need in the first place.

No single FG uses Fractals on them. You might think about Fractal Minor Phoenix (Eternal Phoenix) or Fractal Pest (Decay).
The only FG uses them is Dream Catcher, who combines them with Butterfly Effect.
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