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Re: Forum Brawl #7 - Round 1 - Voting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=65831.msg1275400#msg1275400
« Reply #24 on: March 21, 2018, 01:41:26 pm »
Voting for Brawl teams are mandatory. At least one team member from each team must vote. However do note that Brawl teams vote are worth drastically less than a non-brawler vote. Check the example in the rules if you are still unsure how your votes will be calculated.
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Re: Forum Brawl #7 - Round 1 - Voting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=65831.msg1275401#msg1275401
« Reply #25 on: March 21, 2018, 01:45:37 pm »
Players who are part of a Brawl team can vote, however special rules apply for them. In each team, at least one player must vote. Each player who wants to vote gives out points as normal. However these points are not counted in the same way as non-team voints. For each team, all the points of its voting players are added, and whichever team gained the most points, will get 2 voints, while the second team will get 1 voint. If two teams gets the same amount of points from a team, they will get 1 voint each. Players can not give any voting points to their own team.


Spoiler for Team voting example:
Team Red has 3 players (A, B and C)
Team Blue has 5 players (K, L, M, N, O)
Team Green has 1 player (R)
Team Black has 2 players (X, Y)

Each player has 10 voints to give out, max 5 to each team (standard voting rules)

Team Red votes like this:
A votes: 3 to Blue, 2 to Green, 5 to Black
B votes: 5 to Green, 5 to Black
C votes: 4 to Blue, 4 to Green, 2 to Black
Total for Red: 7 to Blue, 11 to Green, 12 to Black
Voints from team Red: 2 to Black, 1 to Green

Team Blue votes likes this:
K votes: 4 to Red, 1 to Green, 5 to Black
L votes: 5 to Red, 5 to Green
M, N and O chooses not to vote.
Total for Blue: 9 to Red, 6 to Green, 5 to Black.
Voints from Blue: 2 to Red, 1 to Green.

Team Green votes like this:
R votes: 5 to Red, 5 to Black.
Total for Green: 5 to Red, 5 to Black.
Voints from Green: 1 to Red, 1 to Black.

Team Black votes like this:
X votes: 4 to Red, 4 to Blue, 2 to Green.
Z votes: 1 to Red, 4 to Blue, 5 to Green.
Total for Black: 5 to Red, 8 to Blue, 7 to Green.
Voints from Black: 2 to Blue, 1 to Green.

Total results from Team voting:

Red: 4
Blue: 2
Green: 2
Black: 3

These voints are then added directly with the voints from the non-team voters and the teams are then given points as per the table below.

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Re: Forum Brawl #7 - Round 1 - Voting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=65831.msg1275404#msg1275404
« Reply #26 on: March 21, 2018, 02:38:54 pm »
Quote from: OinOin's review of the tasks
As per the previous Brawl, eventually I'd like to see some non-pixellated submissions, but for Round 1 this is not a problem at all.

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Re: Forum Brawl #7 - Round 1 - Voting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=65831.msg1275405#msg1275405
« Reply #27 on: March 21, 2018, 04:44:21 pm »
Paratus' Space Trooper submisison is against the task rules since it is using CIA cards that is not :gravity or :earth cards. It will be removed from voting and Paratus will recieve 0 points for that task.

This also means that there is no point for Brawlers to vote on the Space Trooper task since the only legal vote would be 5 voints each to the other 2 teams.

The wording of the task submissions as is says "It must be 50% :earth: OR 50% :gravity:." Only one submission has an exact 50% ratio. What is your stance on this?
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Re: Forum Brawl #7 - Round 1 - Voting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=65831.msg1275406#msg1275406
« Reply #28 on: March 21, 2018, 05:11:05 pm »
The wording of the task submissions as is says "It must be 50% :earth: OR 50% :gravity:." Only one submission has an exact 50% ratio. What is your stance on this?

* By 50% we meant at least 50%. We thought it was clear enough.
* We are going to be more careful about deckbuilding tasks' rules in the future in order to avoid situations like these.
* At the same time, I would like to say to all Brawlers to don't hesistate to ask questions about the tasks and to demand clarifications in such situations beforehand. It helps at not causing discord.
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Re: Forum Brawl #7 - Round 1 - Voting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=65831.msg1275407#msg1275407
« Reply #29 on: March 21, 2018, 05:18:31 pm »
It helps at not causing discord.

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Re: Forum Brawl #7 - Round 1 - Voting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=65831.msg1275408#msg1275408
« Reply #30 on: March 21, 2018, 05:25:00 pm »
It helps at not causing discord.

Was... was this a pun?

Nope. :P

Please Paratus, don't be mad at us for disqualifying your deckbuilder submission but, most of all, don't feel disencouraged from doing your best during the rest of the Brawl because you are an awesome team. ;)
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Re: Forum Brawl #7 - Round 1 - Voting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=65831.msg1275409#msg1275409
« Reply #31 on: March 21, 2018, 05:30:49 pm »
It helps at not causing discord.

Was... was this a pun?

Nope. :P

Please Paratus, don't be mad at us for disqualifying your deckbuilder submission but, most of all, don't feel disencouraged from doing your best during the rest of the Brawl because you are an awesome team. ;)

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Re: Forum Brawl #7 - Round 1 - Voting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=65831.msg1275410#msg1275410
« Reply #32 on: March 21, 2018, 07:17:32 pm »
I mean I'm obviously not happy with the result of us being rather harshly penalized when a task wasn't as clear as it should have been. A softer punishment would have been to remove our initial 3 points by default and leave it up for voters to decide whether they felt it still accurately fit the prompt as it was originally presented. All that said, as long as this is treated as a learning experience to improve things in the future I'm totally okay with it.

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Re: Forum Brawl #7 - Round 1 - Voting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=65831.msg1275411#msg1275411
« Reply #33 on: March 21, 2018, 07:44:30 pm »
I understand your disappointment, but it specifically stated that Earth and Gravity cards from CIA was allowed, which should imply that other cards are not. It is unfortunate that you misunderstood the rules, and we will try to be more clear in future tasks.

Since the task did not follow the rules we felt that disallowing it from voting was the best course of action, since the other teams had followed the task limitations. Allowing tasks that breaks the rules (even on accident) sets up a dangerous precedent for the future.
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Re: Forum Brawl #7 - Round 1 - Voting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=65831.msg1275412#msg1275412
« Reply #34 on: March 21, 2018, 08:31:47 pm »
So I just voted, and it pains me to have to give so many points. Please note that the following is my opinion, that I do not mean to start a debate nor to insult anyone.

Spoiler for BOSS TASK:
Instantly gave 5 points to Paratus, and would have given more if I could have.
I dislike both other submissions. I went with what I disliked less. Gave a point to GFY because Iron Manta does not deserve as many as Paratus to me.

Spoiler for ARTIST TASK:
Instantly gave 5 points to Paratus. I really love the art on Iron Manta, but dislike that it became a combo log keeper task, so I gave it only 3 points, GFY still deserves at the very least 2 here.

Spoiler for CARD DESIGN TASK:
Instantly gave 5 points to GFY, as of all 3 it is the one that seemed the most space-themed to me. I then went to balance to decide how to give my other points, and Iron Manta's card felt extremely powerful, so I gave it 2.

Spoiler for WRITER TASK:
As I have told them on discord, I do not feel that Paratus' entry is a poem. The first verse truly throws me off completely. However, It felt harsh to me to give 0 points just because of the first verse, so I went 4-4-2.

As for deckbuilding, well, I voted the only way that I could, 5-5 for GFY and Iron Manta.
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Re: Forum Brawl #7 - Round 1 - Voting https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=65831.msg1275414#msg1275414
« Reply #35 on: March 21, 2018, 10:07:56 pm »
Looks like Paratus should've put a This Is A Gravity Card in their deck

 

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