Brawl #3 Round 4 Voting

[Naesala]

The writer's tasks are still in our forum expert spoiler

That was weird. Fixed now!

[MyNameIsJoey]

Votes

Boss task : Silver Ferns
artist : cuckoo's nest
Deckbuilder : Divine Light
Card design : I'm a bit disappointed with all tasks there. Not that they aren't good, but I'm expecting a bit more. Vote goes to Death Dost Dominate
Forum Expert : I would love for a battle subforum to bring battle back alive. Sadly, this is wishful thinking. Well you're lucky I'm an Idealist, because Silver Ferns still get my vote.
Writer : Cuckoo's nest. While we don't see an NPC bazaar keeper, it was fun, and makes us imagine there is one. Creativity bringing us to the deepest of ourselves. Great job.
Bonus task : Here again I'm a bit disappointed. Is there nothing more that can be added to this game at all? Vote goes for Cuckoo's.
Challenge ( SF vs Cuckoo's ) : My vote goes for cuckoo's. I personally cannot see myself using the catapult calculator when I already know the formula.

[Naesala]

Added another challenge that was missed because Forum issues made us not receive some private messages. Neither team penalized. Please vote!

[andretimpa]

Maybe add a counter, so people understand the deadline is really coming tomorrow? Just one non-brawler vote so far.

[farscape]

Bosses: Silver Ferns and Divine Light -- honorable mention to DDD for valid submission, the other two (WitD and Cuckoo) did not fulfill the task requirement IMHO
Artist: Divine Light and Cuckoo's Nest -- purely personal taste, I 'm not an art expert, don't even know if they met the Baroque Painting Style criteria
DeckBuilder: Divine Light and DDD -- original and emotions fit well, for the others I felt the emotion's were kinda forced "explained-in"
CardDesign: Cuckoo's Nest -- I like this pair because they are both useful cards on their own, so not just a peculiar pair for the sake of countering. I specifically disagree with OldTress about Cuckoos Revealed, it is very useful against pharaoh and FFQ decks.
ForumExp: DDD -- indeed, the community needs promotions, the activity seems to be decreasing overall
Writer: DDD -- the good ol' FGs need a lore description too for the new version

[ARTHANASIOS]

I voted for...

BOSS:
Silver Ferns & Divine Light

ARTIST:
Silver Ferns & Cuckoo's Nest

DECK BUILDER:
Silver Ferns & Cuckoo's Nest

CARD DESIGNER:
Silver Ferns & Death Dost Dominate

FORUM EXPERT:
Silver Ferns & Death Dost Dominate

WRITER TASK:
Whispers in the Dark & Cuckoo's Nest

BONUS TASK:
Silver Ferns & Cuckoo's Nest

CHALLENGES:
SF vs CN = Cuckoo's Nest (Ok, I admit it, they have defeated me.)
WITD vs CN = Cuckoo's Nest

Yeah, Cuckoos rocked this round.

[Naesala]

Maybe add a counter, so people understand the deadline is really coming tomorrow? Just one non-brawler vote so far.

Theres going to be a 1 day extension on everything. I was going to discuss this with Chapuz before deciding on an extension, but he has been busy.

[eljoemo]

Spoiler for Boss:

Vote - Divine Light

Ignoring the obvious, I tried to picture these as realistically as possible. Votes based on awesomeness and potential playability.

DDD - It just seems a little 1 Dimensional to me; a little basic, missing some flair and shazam. I just don't think it would make a good sport if it were possible, it's just tossing a ball around after all. Plus Gravity OP obviously .

CN - I get the feeling you were trying to think outside the box here. It didn't work. I still feel a little confused at to what meaning you were trying to convey.

SF - I feel like you tread the boundary between a game and a sport. The whole idea seems to be too complicated without enough explanation. Maybe I'm missing the point but I couldn't see this being a thing.

DL - Ignoring the fact that jousting is not really practiced any more, I like this idea. And even if you didn't totally invent a new sport, you made something that would work and would be entertaining. I would love to watch this (but I'll leave the participation to someone else ).

Spoiler for Artist:

Vote - Cuckoo's Nest

Given I know nothing of art and am too lazy to research the particular style, these reviews probably aren't going to be the best...

DL - I don't really like the huge frame going on. You don't paint the frame onto the canvas do you? (Do you? I have no idea) The whole thing seems rushed and unfinished, from the patchy colouring to the wallpaper background. I just don't find this appealing to look at.

SF - The background looks really ace, but the subject doesn't have the same quality to it, so it doesn't really look right. Details like the ear rings, the mouth, the hair and the fingers look rushed and unfinished.

CN - I like this. I think the fact that it was hand-drawn adds some appreciation. The shading is pretty decent and it's a resemblance to the original. It just works well and I like it.

DDD - For me, the whole texture-y thing you used took away a lot from the finished product. I also don't like how you just re-used the elements art, seems kinda cheaty and just a tad lazy.

Once again, if I said anything looked bad when it was supposed to be an artistic feature, my bad.

Spoiler for Deck Builder:

Vote - Cuckoo's Nest

I think most teams went for matching particular cards to the wedge instead of matching the deck itself. I voted on how well the deck portrays each level of the wedge, not how each card can be compared to a different emotion. As such, there wasn't much difficulty voting.

CN - A deck I haven't seen before. It matches the wedge you chose, with the seeming to be one style and then swapping to something else. And if your PvP testing can be trusted, it seems it works superbly . Have a vote (even if you did copy us).

DL - Something original, but did you just get a bunch of cards and try to make them work together? Doesn't really fit the theme as a whole.

SF - Nothing original here; spiders and wings has been done before. Your links to the wedge are tenuous at best.

DDD - Once again, your cards link to their emotions by themselves, but the deck as a whole does not. But this was the best of the 3 decks like this.

Spoiler for Card Designer:

Vote - Death Dost Dominate

Based on how well each card represents the Team, how well each card works by itself and how well one counters the other.

DDD - Do Ferns release spores? I'm no botanist so we'll just ignore that. Anyway, I like Ferns card, maybe it would be better if some healing was included but it works as is. It works for TTKs or growing your creatures, or protecting a creature with a nice ability, such as mitosis (being in life and all). But the real star is Rigor. I know that we all hate insta-kills but this makes the idea plausible. I'm guessing shields do not count (DIMS OP!!!) but this is still useful with other cards: sundials, wardens, Squids etc. It also does the amazing job of countering SoFo! And of course countering the Ferns card nicely. I think you may have done a better job than myself (but only slightly )

DL - Your Cuckoo's card..? Meh, it only really fits because of what I read in round one. Otherwise I'd have no idea how this was related to CN. Plus it's really UP: OE, oty, even parasite and toadfish are much better than this. Not to mention spells or AoE cards. Your own card is far too much of a niche card. Aside from antimatter, aflatoxin and singularity (which would be terribly OP), this card is practically useless. No matter how strong the counter, the individual cards are quite poor.

CN - Whispers and the Boogeyman are very different things. Aside from that, I'm not sure how useful Boogeyman would be. Without forcing a trio, you've only really got pest to use it on, and if you're using Dark and Aether, Pestal is just much better. I don't think your Cuckoo card really fits either. Coming back to the home nest doesn't really work for your mechanic, and especially not in Darkness. Add in the fact that it's only useful if you know your opponent will be using Phaoroh, FFQ, Fate Egg or Mitosis and a few others and its practically useless. Not impressed overall.

SF - Your Ferns card is very Fern-ish and is a viable card; gotta love protecting stuff. Your Divine Light card fits with Krzy's mission to destroy us all with his blinding awesomeness. But both abilities are nothing exciting or amazing. Cloak exists, Quint exists and the DL card has been done a lot already. It just wasn't the most inspired card pair.

Spoiler for Forum Expert:

Vote - Divine Light

I'm getting tired now, and there isn't much to say, so I'll keep it quick.

DL - Basically, this was the best idea from those given. There are a lot of EtG based projects going on so it would probably be useful for the community right now.

DDD - If the community is shrinking, its not because the community is stagnant, but because the development of the game is. I don't feel like your sub-forum would add much and I personally probably wouldn't use it.

CN - I don't think this forum is the type that needs a Hell section. There aren't enough useless / offensive / Hell-worthy threads around here. We have rules and they are followed, simple enough. Again, this would be very useless.

SF - Battle died for a reason: it wasn't going anywhere. Before we make a Battle subforum, we need to fix up Battle, which is not an easy task. And btw, not being rude but most of your text fell to the rules of tl;dr. I'm lazy, sorry about that.

Spoiler for Writer:

Vote - Divine Light

Votes for which represented their AI / NPC the best and which was most fun to read.

DL - I really like this. It makes sense and I can really see this being true in the world of elements. Good lore making for a good read.

DDD - Needs to be beefier and more substantial. If you're writing for a FG, you need more than that. Plus the lore wasn't that great and entertaining. Pretty Meh overall.

CN - Ah, the annoying shop keeper. Takes me back to my Animal Crossing days... But enough day dreaming, this was fun and an entertaining read, but since Shakif isn't an official NPC and because this doesn't really fit my descriptions of lore, DL gets it.

Spoiler for Bonus:

I wasn't really impressed by any here. CN's suggestion doesn't really sit well with me, I just don't fancy idea 1 and didn't understand idea 2. SF went for the "spray-and-pray" tactic and once again I couldn't be bothered reading it all. DDD, well AI improvements are always welcome, but nothing new.

Spoiler for CN vs SF:

Vote - Cuckoo's Nest

A tool which is only useful for one card which isn't used often and already has a known formula VS something which might be useful for decks and stuff. It wasn't a hard choice.

Spoiler for CN vs WITD:

Vote - Whispers in the Dark

Well obviously I'm voting for my own team But I thing MegroN did the better job here to be honest.

Well that only took me 2 hours to write :/

[ARTHANASIOS]

 I'll say just a thing; it is pity I can't express even a 10% of the ideas & suggestions I have indeed in my mind without my submission being treated as tl;dr one. Ironically, people still make comments on submission they admit they couldn't bother to fully read.
 If you were bothered to read my Battle submission, you would see I suggest more stuff than just copy/pasting the Battle forum game into a new forum/subforum.

About Forum Experts Tasks in general:
 My personal opinion about FE tasks in this Brawl so far; with the exception of Round 2 (Boss & FE Combo), I have found the work we Forum Experts have done in this Brawl rather poor, including mine ones (I apologize in advance, in case I accidentaly insult anyone with this comment, it doesn't meant to be offensive by any means). In my most honest opinion, you can't express your ideas and do proper suggestions in just a few lines or even paragraphs; you need to analyze and expand as much as you can, taking into account every minor detail if possible, and none of us has done this to a good extent imho.

[andretimpa]

@eljoemo can we vote only on ourselves in challenges? Otherwise its moot to vote, unless you are conceding to the opponent.

[Rutarete]

One thing I want to point out - For Wither King, to lose negative stats is to gain stats. So going by just the card text, it's the opposite of what you wanted. You would either say lose positive stats or gain negative stats. (Obviously replace appropriately with numbers)

[taker]

Boss Task: No vote, cause I don't like all submissions.
Artist Task: Death Dost Dominate. Baroque Mummy. Cool Art. Other submissions are nice, too.
Deckbuilder Task: Death Dost Dominate again. Very nice harmony with the elements and the theme.
Card Designer Task: Very hard to decide here. I vote for Silver Ferns here. Tight decision.
Forum Expert: Divine Light.
Writer: Cuckoo's Nest.
Bonus Task: Death Dost Dominate.
Challenge: Silver Ferns.