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Thor! Finding links now...Yep, good enough.
EDIT: http://marvel.wikia.com/Thor_%28Thor_Odinson%29 good enough?
cannonball from new mutants... here is a link http://marvel.wikia.com/CannonballGood enough, but next time, please post the link that is on the exact page of information, Luckily i realized that i had to click the image to go it. :)
Are the participants allowed to argue about who would win, or are there supposed to be outside people?I said in my pm, that You have to prove that your character can beat the opponents character.
Get's bored? Thor fought the Frost Giants for nine months, he's not going to get bored. Cannonball, on the other hand, has no sort of enhance stamina and, though I can't back this up because I don't remember where, I'm ninety percent sure Cannonball has a finite amount of time he can keep "burning". Something like half an hour. There's no way he could beat Thor by then, at which point he would very much be at Thor's mercy.Korugar, the statement in yellow needs back up, its basically a major statement against a character, according to rules, it needs to be backed up by official proof to be 100% reliable info, not 90%.
Fine but could Mjolnir get to Cannonball... Cannonball is also a strategist and would know better then to stay close to Thor then more then a second or two. He would most likely just Charge from and angle and dodge any of Thor's attacks until he could hit him, and just do it again until Thor gets bored or actually loses.please provide a link to the page that refers Cannonball as a profound or well-recognized strategist.
Not really. If anything can hurt Cannonball(and considering my earlier quote, it obviously can) it would be Mjolnir.Can you provide a link with Mjolnir's powers/traits please?
Might I suggest looking at the marvel powergrid rankings between the two?Gavsword, Can you please provide links to those same images that appear in some sort of official website? It seems they only take me to imageshack.
Cannonball (http://marvel.com/universe/Cannonball_(Sam_Guthrie))
(http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/834/picture2wi.png) (http://img156.imageshack.us/i/picture2wi.png/)
Thor (http://marvel.com/universe/Thor_(Thor_Odinson))
(http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/1368/picture3fs.png) (http://img651.imageshack.us/i/picture3fs.png/)
Cannonball does not have durability issues, but Thor also beats him in every category
If you click the names, they take you to the official pageThey seem official enough, Thank you. :)
EDIT: Added a link to the main page via the pictures
To the first yellow bit: His powers do not say anything about stamina upgrades, so if that's not good enough...Anyway, I don't have anything for the second half of that. So yeah, forget it. Anyway, Mjolnir's powers and traits are below Thor's on the link I already posted. And the thing Gavsword posted? Yeah, I was looking for something like that. If that little bit doesn't clinch it immediately, I don't know what will.Get's bored? Thor fought the Frost Giants for nine months, he's not going to get bored. Cannonball, on the other hand, has no sort of enhance stamina and, though I can't back this up because I don't remember where, I'm ninety percent sure Cannonball has a finite amount of time he can keep "burning". Something like half an hour. There's no way he could beat Thor by then, at which point he would very much be at Thor's mercy.Korugar, the statement in yellow needs back up, its basically a major statement against a character, according to rules, it needs to be backed up by official proof to be 100% reliable info, not 90%.
otherwise it may affect the validity of the statement.Fine but could Mjolnir get to Cannonball... Cannonball is also a strategist and would know better then to stay close to Thor then more then a second or two. He would most likely just Charge from and angle and dodge any of Thor's attacks until he could hit him, and just do it again until Thor gets bored or actually loses.please provide a link to the page that refers Cannonball as a profound or well-recognized strategist.
otherwise the statement may be classified as a personal opinion.
personal opinions aren't that strong in this type of discussion.Not really. If anything can hurt Cannonball(and considering my earlier quote, it obviously can) it would be Mjolnir.Can you provide a link with Mjolnir's powers/traits please?
Thor wins?There is still one day left, so it is uncertain.
Ah, sorry, I couldn't find a countdown anywhere.Its on the voting box, countdown clocks are placed on OP.
The place that says "Time left:Countdown", but no numbers? ;)Thats automatic when the countdown finishes - Countdown is refered to as Countdown finished, for some apparent reason :-\
I wanna know who voted for cannonball because I didn't vote at allOops, my bad. Didn't even notice lol. It won't let me change my vote though. Probably should change that.
Well, I was thinking of a couple from that list. Others were jokes/not comic book characters. Others can't beat him. And on the other hand, just because they can beat him, doesn't mean they always will.That's what the debating here is about, proving that someone can beat someone else.
Quick note: The Ultimate Nullifier kills whoever uses it.then how come reed richards from fantastic four was able to use it agiasnt galactus but was not destroyed?
gavsword hasnt posted recently and i dont know when the countdown ends so how much time do we have left to place are arguements out on the table?Times up, voting has commenced. :)
are we making a rule on wiether or not were allowing gods/dietys or we only allowing super heroes/villians i just want to clear this up for the next people that come in.Perhaps I should make certain conditions for each battle or something, good idea though.
Um...I'd have to disagree with your definitions. For example, the theory behind some powerful abilities(I'll use Professor X for an example) is still enhanced something. His mind is simply enhanced to the point where he can read people's minds, or even control them.Remember though, professor X developed the powers on his own, that is not classified as a Bio genetic enhancement because they came naturally, Wolverine is a good example of a biologically enhanced being because thats just what he simply is, he never grew these powers on his own, although i still may have to exclude him since i only said "slightly", he has a heavy modification so I guess he is too much.
What about Flash, wouldn't he technically only have his speed enhanced? Yet I would certainly classify that as a super power. How about a cyborg, or alien whose race gives them extra abilities over humans?
Anyway, I would suggest one of two things: (1) remove the part about super powers. The Immortal rule would still remove those like Superman, Wonder Woman, Galactus, etc. It would allow certain others in that you mentioned, but if you don't like that, then do number (2) tighten the rules about super powers. Something like...no genetic modifications, only skills. True, this would exclude Wolverine, but honestly...he has super powers, he shouldn't be allowed.
Your choice, just my thoughts.
It's a moot point, now, but Woverine's abilities are sort of as natural as Professor X's. Well, kind of. The metal does make him a good deal more dangerous...but the healing, and claws, and animal senses are all natural. But like I said, it doesn't matter at this point.Yeah but those were bone claws, theyd break anyday, his main powers are taken note of when they are enhanced biologically, instead of bone, adamantium, all over his body, plus increased regeneration rate, henceforth his main abilities are biogenetically engineered ones.
The regeneration rate was not increased, that was completely natural. Unless you're going off the Ultimates universe(which is messed up, by the way), in which case all mutants were artificially engineered.meh the comic world contradicts itself in many ways so anything is possible.