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Re: Winged Spider Duo FG Deck (v 1.24 only, some cards/strategies subject to change) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8400.msg99003#msg99003
« Reply #24 on: June 23, 2010, 01:36:47 am »
Changing mark wont work. If you do then, you need  :air towers.

I updated my 2nd post. I knew reserving that would prove useful. Miracle and Ferox are auto quits. They will out heal you if you dont have a fractal deck. A quint deck wont work against them. you will deck out.
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Re: Winged Spider Duo FG Deck (v 1.24 only, some cards/strategies subject to change) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8400.msg99020#msg99020
« Reply #25 on: June 23, 2010, 03:01:09 am »
ooh...idea
quints and fractals together? something like 4 quints and 2 fractals could work

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Re: Winged Spider Duo FG Deck (v 1.24 only, some cards/strategies subject to change) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8400.msg99032#msg99032
« Reply #26 on: June 23, 2010, 03:24:11 am »
ooh...idea
quints and fractals together? something like 4 quints and 2 fractals could work
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I like the idea, but then another wings would need too be added, otherwise you may not draw it in time, and it may cause more bad draws.
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Re: Winged Spider Duo FG Deck (v 1.24 only, some cards/strategies subject to change) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8400.msg99035#msg99035
« Reply #27 on: June 23, 2010, 03:33:43 am »
ooh...idea
quints and fractals together? something like 4 quints and 2 fractals could work
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I like the idea, but then another wings would need too be added, otherwise you may not draw it in time, and it may cause more bad draws.
not necessarily...if we had 30 cards why would it matter? and we could maybe get away with using fewer spiders, maybe 5 or even 4
are you gonna post a quint version on the first page?

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Re: Winged Spider Duo FG Deck (v 1.24 only, some cards/strategies subject to change) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8400.msg99044#msg99044
« Reply #28 on: June 23, 2010, 03:48:31 am »
this is probably a very bad idea, but how about changing mark to fire and throwing in some unstable gases along with the quinted spiders? because we could have the spiders kill them over time then use gases to finish them off
ignore this if we find out that just spiders is enough to kill a god. also doing this could let us toss in an explosion or two which would be nice
ya, the spiders won't deal enough damage for the FGs that heal
so I have some solution to the FGs that have miracle or bonds
if you don't want to use unstable gas, at least put in some PU to copy their dragons or growth creatures for final hit

my suggestion:
-2 Quint
-2 SoG

+4 PU  or
+3 Gas, +1 Creamation

+Air Nymph of course if you have

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Re: Winged Spider Duo FG Deck (v 1.24 only, some cards/strategies subject to change) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8400.msg99047#msg99047
« Reply #29 on: June 23, 2010, 03:57:44 am »
after some modify, I realize...

spider+quint…why not phase dragons?
spider+wing… why not phase shield?
So I finally change this deck into a traditional mono aether…
and find it work much better

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Re: Winged Spider Duo FG Deck (v 1.24 only, some cards/strategies subject to change) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8400.msg99050#msg99050
« Reply #30 on: June 23, 2010, 04:02:33 am »
after some modify, I realize...

spider+quint…why not phase dragons? Because of none airborne
spider+wing… why not phase shield? Because its only 3 turns and having 6 only stops 18 turns
So I finally change this deck into a traditional mono aether…
and find it work much better

sad...but truth
mono aether fails against fgs. If youre having better luck with that, then you arent using the deck right.

And until I get done testing, im not putting a quint version up. I think I like my original idea more, as it is probably a lot more effective than a quint version, and faster. But Im still doing tweaking before I put up a new version. So maybe eventually, but I want it perfect first.

EDIT
Fatty version with both fractal and quints is horrible... It was a good though, but prone to way too many bad draws, and just doesnt work.
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Re: Winged Spider Duo FG Deck (v 1.24 only, some cards/strategies subject to change) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8400.msg99056#msg99056
« Reply #31 on: June 23, 2010, 04:28:36 am »
after some modify, I realize...

spider+quint…why not phase dragons? Because of none airborne
spider+wing… why not phase shield? Because its only 3 turns and having 6 only stops 18 turns
So I finally change this deck into a traditional mono aether…
and find it work much better

sad...but truth
mono aether fails against fgs. If youre having better luck with that, then you arent using the deck right.

And until I get done testing, im not putting a quint version up. I think I like my original idea more, as it is probably a lot more effective than a quint version, and faster. But Im still doing tweaking before I put up a new version. So maybe eventually, but I want it perfect first.
I've no opinion about your fractal version,
but for the quint version, if you think mono-aether can't beat FGs, I don't think the wing based deck can perform better than that

don't forget the wing need spider to act like a phase shield, if you count in the number of spiders, the number is much more than only 6 phase shields
besides Eagles' Eye is common in FGs

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Re: Winged Spider Duo FG Deck (v 1.24 only, some cards/strategies subject to change) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8400.msg99184#msg99184
« Reply #32 on: June 23, 2010, 11:52:14 am »

I've no opinion about your fractal version,
but for the quint version, if you think mono-aether can't beat FGs, I don't think the wing based deck can perform better than that

don't forget the wing need spider to act like a phase shield, if you count in the number of spiders, the number is much more than only 6 phase shields
besides Eagles' Eye is common in FGs
Have you tested out both ways? Theory and what actually happens tend to be quite different.
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Re: Winged Spider Duo FG Deck (v 1.24 only, some cards/strategies subject to change) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8400.msg100478#msg100478
« Reply #33 on: June 25, 2010, 12:56:04 am »
Just out of curiousity, why not split the difference and play 2x Quint and 2x Fractal?
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Re: Winged Spider Duo FG Deck (v 1.24 only, some cards/strategies subject to change) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8400.msg100610#msg100610
« Reply #34 on: June 25, 2010, 05:46:03 am »
i suggested 4x quint 2x fractal but bluepriest tried it and said it was prone to bad draws and just didnt work...but that couldve been luck.
2x quint 2x fractal could work well...somebody try it!

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Re: Winged Spider Duo FG Deck (v 1.24 only, some cards/strategies subject to change) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8400.msg100721#msg100721
« Reply #35 on: June 25, 2010, 12:22:05 pm »
Just beat scorpio using 2 fractals/2 quints. That may work well. Having 6 (4 of 1, and 2 of the other) didnt work well at all, but 2 and 2 seems pretty good.. That was only 1 battle though, ill have to do more to know for sure.
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