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Re: Winged Spider Duo FG Deck (v 1.24 only, some cards/strategies subject to change) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8400.msg98046#msg98046
« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2010, 08:32:11 pm »
uuuhhh, why do you have fractals in a prodominately aether deck, with no creatures other than aether creatures? you are aware that fractal takes all your aether quanta away, arent you?
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Re: Winged Spider Duo FG Deck (v 1.24 only, some cards/strategies subject to change) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8400.msg98049#msg98049
« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2010, 08:37:25 pm »
uuuhhh, why do you have fractals in a prodominately aether deck, with no creatures other than aether creatures? you are aware that fractal takes all your aether quanta away, arent you?
It means he has enough quanta to play all the cards leaving all card spaces open (except for maybe wings) and he can afford to discard one spider.

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Re: Winged Spider Duo FG Deck (v 1.24 only, some cards/strategies subject to change) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8400.msg98165#msg98165
« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2010, 11:18:15 pm »
I tried it with +2 wings, +2 SoGs, and +1 Aether Tower.
Worked like a charm until I fought Obliterator. Damn pulverizers.

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Re: Winged Spider Duo FG Deck (v 1.24 only, some cards/strategies subject to change) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8400.msg98174#msg98174
« Reply #15 on: June 21, 2010, 11:25:14 pm »
I tried it with +2 wings, +2 SoGs, and +1 Aether Tower.
Worked like a charm until I fought Obliterator. Damn pulverizers.
Bummer. My heart shatters when he EA's that Pulverizer.

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Re: Winged Spider Duo FG Deck (v 1.24 only, some cards/strategies subject to change) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8400.msg98308#msg98308
« Reply #16 on: June 22, 2010, 03:41:32 am »
uuuhhh, why do you have fractals in a prodominately aether deck, with no creatures other than aether creatures? you are aware that fractal takes all your aether quanta away, arent you?
It means he has enough quanta to play all the cards leaving all card spaces open (except for maybe wings) and he can afford to discard one spider.
exactly. I have been testing replacing the fractals with quints, so this is the toss up I currently have.
A ton of destructible creatures, or a few indestructable ones. What to choose, what to choose...
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Re: Winged Spider Duo FG Deck (v 1.24 only, some cards/strategies subject to change) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8400.msg98857#msg98857
« Reply #17 on: June 22, 2010, 09:42:42 pm »
well, i would go with indestructable, because what if they have RoF or a few Thunderstorms? your screwed huh? but if you have a few indestructable ones, then you are able to keep them alive longer and keep your defense up, which is important against the gods
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Re: Winged Spider Duo FG Deck (v 1.24 only, some cards/strategies subject to change) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8400.msg98895#msg98895
« Reply #18 on: June 22, 2010, 10:35:53 pm »
well, i would go with indestructable, because what if they have RoF or a few Thunderstorms? your screwed huh? but if you have a few indestructable ones, then you are able to keep them alive longer and keep your defense up, which is important against the gods
Yes, but then I also need to wait for a quint to play them, where as I can play them slowly eventually draining out creature control with fractal, and then after they are out, I still have a fractal or two, but I have a feeling quints will be better
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Re: Winged Spider Duo FG Deck (v 1.24 only, some cards/strategies subject to change) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8400.msg98957#msg98957
« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2010, 12:19:13 am »
im not so sure. my original idea was quints but your fractal idea seemed to work better. you dont really need all that many spiders as long as they dont get loboed so quints could work great if you can figure out a way to do damage. elite wyrms (this idea sounds good, i might try it myself)? phase dragons? sky dragons? TU's? air nymphs with fire mark (lol...if i had one)?

EDIT: actually sky dragons are probably better than wyrms (not having tested anything yet) because wyrms are more quanta intensive early game when we need the  :air to web stuff and we'll have built up some  :air and have nothing to do with it by the time we need to play the dragons. but maybe wyrms could be better, idk. we shouldn't have a damage source relying on aether because we need that for spiders and quints. but maybe that could work better because we could use air as only the mark and have all aether towers. but there are no good damage sources in aether so thats out.
conclusion: in my opinion quinted elite wyrms or sky dragons would be our best bet. but idk

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Re: Winged Spider Duo FG Deck (v 1.24 only, some cards/strategies subject to change) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8400.msg98961#msg98961
« Reply #20 on: June 23, 2010, 12:22:34 am »
im not so sure. my original idea was quints but your fractal idea seemed to work better. you dont really need all that many spiders as long as they dont get loboed so quints could work great if you can figure out a way to do damage. elite wyrms (this idea sounds good, i might try it myself)? phase dragons? sky dragons? TU's? air nymphs with fire mark (lol...if i had one)?
none of those will work for this deck. Phase spiders do 7 damage on their own, im planning on making a chart eventually to show how many turns/damage you will need... that may put things in perspective a little better for which idea is better.
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Re: Winged Spider Duo FG Deck (v 1.24 only, some cards/strategies subject to change) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8400.msg98971#msg98971
« Reply #21 on: June 23, 2010, 12:37:39 am »
true. would having only quinted spiders for the whole game work if we added more shards, etc? cuz that could be nice
but look at my edit...it says a bit more

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Re: Winged Spider Duo FG Deck (v 1.24 only, some cards/strategies subject to change) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8400.msg98978#msg98978
« Reply #22 on: June 23, 2010, 12:48:17 am »
this is probably a very bad idea, but how about changing mark to fire and throwing in some unstable gases along with the quinted spiders? because we could have the spiders kill them over time then use gases to finish them off
ignore this if we find out that just spiders is enough to kill a god. also doing this could let us toss in an explosion or two which would be nice

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Re: Winged Spider Duo FG Deck (v 1.24 only, some cards/strategies subject to change) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8400.msg98982#msg98982
« Reply #23 on: June 23, 2010, 01:00:05 am »
alright, i made a quint version and played dark matter and almost got my defenses up in time, then played osiris and got an easy EM (early lobo=osiris sucks). there was enough damage even though I had only one spider out most of the game and he got a turtle shield out halfway through. so I think this version (tweaked) is probably better than the fractal version you have up right now
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you should post this or a similar version on the front page, and let people try both options
EDIT: EM'ed destiny (lobo is doing just as much as the spiders lol), wouldve beaten miracle if I hadnt waited to play wings

 

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