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Re: Upped Mono-Aether FG grinder with stats (win% 47) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23368.msg384874#msg384874
« Reply #36 on: August 26, 2011, 05:25:53 am »
I think adding a silence will help this deck against some FGs, such as miracle, preventing him from using miracle when you can finish him in 2 rounds, or against FG with perm control, if you're in a critical round, you can finish him next round, but if he blows your shield you'll die, then a silence will save your ass.

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Re: Upped Mono-Aether FG grinder with stats (win% 47) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23368.msg385037#msg385037
« Reply #37 on: August 26, 2011, 04:54:10 pm »
The question of silence is what do you replace to add it?  Because increasing deck size makes chaining shields less reliable.  The Lobo's give you wins vs some FGs, any less dragons and any FG with a shield becomes almost impossible.  The SoGs are key to stabilizing against poison or momentum.  There aren't really any deckslots to swap around.  I know a lot of people run -1 SoG +1 Lobo, but the deck is very well put together and is one of the top farmers.  A lot of FGs are sort of a toss up or by adding a card or two you think 'man I would win then' but those changes generally make other matchups less favorable.  This deck is great because it does a lot of things pretty well, but when you try to change what it does it always seems to become less versatile.
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Re: Upped Mono-Aether FG grinder with stats (win% 47) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23368.msg385091#msg385091
« Reply #38 on: August 26, 2011, 07:46:22 pm »
The bare minimum for the deck to operate properly is something like 12 Towers/Pends, 6 Shields, 2 Lobos, 4 Dragons, which leaves you 6 slots to play with. Each card you add over 30 basically adds another turn you have to stall without shields, so that's out of the question. There have been a few versions mentioned with different cards in the last 6 slots, but it's always been a combination of SoGs and extra Towers, Lobos and Dragons. If you think something else could work I encourage you to test it out, but if you ask me, I doubt it will win more than the cards already in deck.

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Re: Upped Mono-Aether FG grinder with stats (win% 47) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23368.msg388136#msg388136
« Reply #39 on: September 02, 2011, 03:23:11 pm »
 :o I'm amazed how great this deck is for FG grinding. One of the best FG grinders I've ever used.

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Re: Upped Mono-Aether FG grinder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23368.msg398223#msg398223
« Reply #40 on: September 24, 2011, 01:24:42 am »
Easy and effective. Thank you for posting the stats, excellent job. :)

Re: Upped Mono-Aether FG grinder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23368.msg410610#msg410610
« Reply #41 on: October 15, 2011, 11:03:59 pm »
Stats will have changed for this deck with the SoG nerf, especially against FGs such as Scorpio and Dark Matter.  This is my usual FG grinder, and I have noticed a marked increase in difficulty against some FGs.

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Re: Upped Mono-Aether FG grinder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23368.msg410893#msg410893
« Reply #42 on: October 16, 2011, 08:40:49 am »
Stats will have changed for this deck with the SoG nerf, especially against FGs such as Scorpio and Dark Matter.  This is my usual FG grinder, and I have noticed a marked increase in difficulty against some FGs.
I fleshed out the 1.29 notice I put in earlier and linked to your post since it's all I've got so far.

I wonder why it took me this long to think of replacing SoGs with SoSas. They lack some of SoGs' good features but might just work. I mean, it's basically a 2-turn phase shield, right? I haven't played with them yet myself (got 2 so far) but others have been talking about how insane they are and they feel completely unfair whenever I face those in the arena.

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Re: Upped Mono-Aether FG grinder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23368.msg410916#msg410916
« Reply #43 on: October 16, 2011, 10:03:14 am »
Aye, SoSa's are insane against AI and players alike. With that much defence, you could easily max out Phase Dragons and maybe get more quanta too. However, for the purpose of grinding, they somewhat go against the most attractive point of this deck: mindlessness. Since SoSa's drain all :aether and heal you provided you play them at the right time, you'll be playing them mid- to late-game unless you're against heavy PC, which means a lot of calculating how much :aether you will have after it so as not to die.

In other words, it would reduce your offensive power over 30 turns and force you to think more when grinding with it, reducing speed of all games. Of course, it would still be relatively mindless, but I wouldn't be able to multi-task as much as I normally do. The winrate should go up a lot to compensate for that.
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Re: Upped Mono-Aether FG grinder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23368.msg414585#msg414585
« Reply #44 on: October 23, 2011, 02:57:42 am »
Oh my god...I can't believe that this is the first time I've seen this deck, and it's so good!
As soon as I saw the win rate, I thought that this is the deck that must be offered to the newbies instead of the ROL+hope deck which isn't amazing against FG and takes longer.
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Re: Upped Mono-Aether FG grinder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23368.msg506812#msg506812
« Reply #45 on: June 02, 2012, 07:58:16 am »
Sorry if i'm upping an old post but, i wanted to know if this will still be effective as of 1.31 and, if so, which kind of shard should be played?

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Re: Upped Mono-Aether FG grinder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23368.msg506847#msg506847
« Reply #46 on: June 02, 2012, 12:05:43 pm »
It still works, I can attest to that. SoG's and Dims takes advantage of a classic strategy, and the only nerf that hurt it was SoG's healing 3 with Aether mark instead of 5.

If you want to run SoSa's, the normal method with SoD's and SoSa's works a lot smoother. I actually love this deck and use it quite often. Its main strength is having more offensive power than Poisondials.

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Re: Upped Mono-Aether FG grinder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23368.msg506957#msg506957
« Reply #47 on: June 02, 2012, 06:15:11 pm »
No lobos at all, i see. Just keep on playing div\sac until your dragons do the job. (Makes me think of a low-profile bruiser :D )

 

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