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Re: Stronger than the void [500HP][EM][PVP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42551.msg530710#msg530710
« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2012, 06:30:27 pm »
Definitely needs EAs (I'd suggest 3 for earlier drawing).

Holy Flash is much better and versatile than Luciferase in this deck. Luciferase costs 1 :rainbow, Holy Flash costs 0 :rainbow, Luciferase can heal you up to 10 hp, Holy Flash can heal you up to 10 hp OR deal 10 damage to a :darkness/ :death creature (though you will use it for EM most of time, it is always good to have an alternative use). ;)

Holy Flash will seriously screw you over in tandem with auto-mulligan, especially since this deck only has 10 pillars.

Pardon? I meant that replacing Luciferase with Holy Flash is a very good idea, since it costs less than Luciferase (zero quanta instead of 1 :rainbow) and it is more versatile than Luciferase. Your hand will be screwed exactly the same. ;)
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Re: Stronger than the void [500HP][EM][PVP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42551.msg530712#msg530712
« Reply #13 on: August 08, 2012, 06:37:54 pm »
0 quanta cards mess with the mulligan.

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Re: Stronger than the void [500HP][EM][PVP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42551.msg530714#msg530714
« Reply #14 on: August 08, 2012, 06:40:44 pm »
0 quanta cards mess with the mulligan.
Stupid mulligan rules, you can't create a proper deck because of it...  >:(
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Re: Stronger than the void [500HP][EM][PVP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42551.msg530719#msg530719
« Reply #15 on: August 08, 2012, 06:47:29 pm »
0 quanta cards mess with the mulligan.
Stupid mulligan rules, you can't create a proper deck because of it...  >:(
I actually think it's a good thing. It makes a deck handable with 6-7 pilars as only 0 cost cards and it makes you have a high chance of getting an early immolation
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Re: Stronger than the void [500HP][EM][PVP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42551.msg530744#msg530744
« Reply #16 on: August 08, 2012, 08:08:20 pm »
I first tried with a darkness mark, but the quanta was too hard to balance. I usually find 5 SoVs is enough. However, a PA would not go amiss in this deck.
About the longsword, I prefer it because it can get through any damage-reducing shield. The luci doesn't need to be upped though.

Pends are Towers, Darkness Mark. Add two PA's and you have EQ protection and SoV protection at the same time.

Worth a try, I'd guess.

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Re: Stronger than the void [500HP][EM][PVP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42551.msg530747#msg530747
« Reply #17 on: August 08, 2012, 08:23:27 pm »
I first tried with a darkness mark, but the quanta was too hard to balance. I usually find 5 SoVs is enough. However, a PA would not go amiss in this deck.
About the longsword, I prefer it because it can get through any damage-reducing shield. The luci doesn't need to be upped though.

Pends are Towers, Darkness Mark. Add two PA's and you have EQ protection and SoV protection at the same time.

Worth a try, I'd guess.

Thing is that you have to kill the opponent before he does 50 damage (minimum) or you won't get an EM.

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Re: Stronger than the void [500HP][EM][PVP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42551.msg530748#msg530748
« Reply #18 on: August 08, 2012, 08:24:52 pm »
I like watching this conversation slowly turn this deck more into Zen with Granites. ;)
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Re: Stronger than the void [500HP][EM][PVP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42551.msg530751#msg530751
« Reply #19 on: August 08, 2012, 08:27:07 pm »
I first tried with a darkness mark, but the quanta was too hard to balance. I usually find 5 SoVs is enough. However, a PA would not go amiss in this deck.
About the longsword, I prefer it because it can get through any damage-reducing shield. The luci doesn't need to be upped though.

Pends are Towers, Darkness Mark. Add two PA's and you have EQ protection and SoV protection at the same time.

Worth a try, I'd guess.


Thing is that you have to kill the opponent before he does 50 damage (minimum) or you won't get an EM.

Fail, forgot that small detail... hmm... Well, there must be a way. I'll play around with it a bit.

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Re: Stronger than the void [500HP][EM][PVP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42551.msg530787#msg530787
« Reply #20 on: August 08, 2012, 09:29:41 pm »
don't you lose by deckout with this?
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Re: Stronger than the void [500HP][EM][PVP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42551.msg530934#msg530934
« Reply #21 on: August 09, 2012, 04:57:48 am »
don't you lose by deckout with this?

Sundials are really only used for drawing if you get a bad hand. I have come close to losing by deckout, but by then my opponent is almost always already down to at least 6hp.
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Re: Stronger than the void [500HP][EM][PVP] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42551.msg532143#msg532143
« Reply #22 on: August 12, 2012, 04:38:54 am »
Nah I see why this deck could work out if you drew the right cards. I actually like the idea. If you get 2 SoV's early you can win, Sundial keeps damage off early and Miracle will keep you alive for enough turns for SoV to kill them. 20-25 turns of playing is plenty for SoV, that's also hoping your opponent doesn't have a rush with some SoF waiting..
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