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Funkyvenom

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stayin' alive(and killing your enemies while you're at it) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20768.msg264120#msg264120
« on: February 04, 2011, 02:29:29 pm »
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this deck uses the popular idea of adrenalined scorpions to do lots of poison, but it also focuses a lot on healing and surviving while the scorpions do their deadly work. It doesn't have any perm. or creature control, but I don't know what to do in a mono life deck. The question mark card is a scorpion. I don't know why it didn't work. I don't know how it got there. This deck does ok against ai5 but I haven't tested it against pvp. It will work ok unupped, but it is really better upgraded. Tell me what you think!
« Last Edit: April 17, 2012, 05:39:55 pm by willng3 »

ShiningSword

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Re: stayin' alive(and killing your enemies while you're at it) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20768.msg264134#msg264134
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2011, 03:15:35 pm »
At the end of the deck code there is an error, thats why the scorpion doesnt work.
It looks slow, even for a poison deck, and you could use more shards, not to mencion that shields could make difficult to get through. Overall it seems good

Funkyvenom

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Re: stayin' alive(and killing your enemies while you're at it) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20768.msg264291#msg264291
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2011, 09:05:08 pm »
so maybe +2 SoG and +2 SoD and +1 jade shield?

ShiningSword

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Re: stayin' alive(and killing your enemies while you're at it) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20768.msg264299#msg264299
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2011, 09:24:54 pm »
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so maybe +2 SoG and +2 SoD and +1 jade shield?
The shield would be fine, and the Sogs as well, but your deck count is high so get ride of all the sods. I would try a duo maybe deflags with mark of fire, that should help with the pesky shields your enemies have

Re: stayin' alive(and killing your enemies while you're at it) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20768.msg264300#msg264300
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2011, 09:25:55 pm »
it's a very large deck...
i suggest slimming it down:
SoD isn't too useful, heals are more effective... so... no SoDs
SoGs give you all the healing you need, so why feral bonds?
you only have 10 pillars, and that's not nearly enough to fuel that many dragons, so... 2 less dragons
you don't really need 2 staves, sure you would want to have it fast, but the 4 damage and 5 heal are not too important in comparison to other things (I will mention that later)
so, now you have 28 cards: now, what's more important than a healing weapon? a shield that reduces 2 damage from every source (and reflects spells), if your opponent has more than 3 damage sources, shield is better than staff, since you don't have any CC at all, your opponent will likely have more than 3, so... 2 shields, 1 staff, rather than 2 staves, and 1 shield
now you have 29, so... what other cards?
now, let's look at the PI:
82/10, a whopping 8.2... too high, 5 is where you want...
so... the extra card would be a tower, but it's still too little
so... one less dragon, and one more tower, now the PI is 6~7, still a little too much
so... let's think a bit, do we really need dragons? get rid of the last dragon, and add in one more pillar, now the PI is 4~5, which is ideal

ShiningSword

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Re: stayin' alive(and killing your enemies while you're at it) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20768.msg264424#msg264424
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2011, 01:20:14 am »
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now, let's look at the PI:
82/10, a whopping 8.2... too high, 5 is where you want...
so... the extra card would be a tower, but it's still too little
so... one less dragon, and one more tower, now the PI is 6~7, still a little too much
so... let's think a bit, do we really need dragons? get rid of the last dragon, and add in one more pillar, now the PI is 4~5, which is ideal
First, this is a stall so you have more time to get quanta(look at mono aether). Second, If there is any 2 point shield, dragons are the only way to win for this deck.

Funkyvenom, you should try this:
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6rn 6rn 6rn 6rn 74a 74a 74a 74a 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ak 7ak 7an 7an 7an 7an 7ao 7ao 7ao 7ao 7ao 7aoOr my favourite, this one:
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74a 74a 74a 74a 74a 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ag 7ag 7ag 7ag 7ag 7an 7an 7an 7an 7an 7ao 7ao 7ao 7ao 7aoThis instead are rushes, but they are very fun to play. Scorps do 12 damage each with the combo and are immune to shields, so no stall is needed. Use the cockatrices to draw out CC, and drop the combo on scorps.

Funkyvenom

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Re: stayin' alive(and killing your enemies while you're at it) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20768.msg264512#msg264512
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2011, 03:34:04 am »
so... let's think a bit, do we really need dragons? get rid of the last dragon, and add in one more pillar, now the PI is 4~5, which is ideal
can this deck really deal damage fast enough without dragons? 12 damage per dragon is pretty good. It's good to have considerable damage with poison because it can be kinda slow without.

Re: stayin' alive(and killing your enemies while you're at it) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20768.msg264518#msg264518
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2011, 04:05:28 am »
so... let's think a bit, do we really need dragons? get rid of the last dragon, and add in one more pillar, now the PI is 4~5, which is ideal
can this deck really deal damage fast enough without dragons? 12 damage per dragon is pretty good. It's good to have considerable damage with poison because it can be kinda slow without.
it can actually deal enough damage, if this is a PvP deck...
in PvP2, you rarely ever see a shield that blocks 2 damage (at least for me), so, the 8 damage per scorpion, plus the poison is plenty

EDIT: stalls need good QI too.... mono aether is so much better in its modified version (go to SG's QI theory thread to see the modified version)

Funkyvenom

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Re: stayin' alive(and killing your enemies while you're at it) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20768.msg264696#msg264696
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2011, 02:09:25 pm »
so... let's think a bit, do we really need dragons? get rid of the last dragon, and add in one more pillar, now the PI is 4~5, which is ideal
can this deck really deal damage fast enough without dragons? 12 damage per dragon is pretty good. It's good to have considerable damage with poison because it can be kinda slow without.
it can actually deal enough damage, if this is a PvP deck...
in PvP2, you rarely ever see a shield that blocks 2 damage (at least for me), so, the 8 damage per scorpion, plus the poison is plenty

EDIT: stalls need good QI too.... mono aether is so much better in its modified version (go to SG's QI theory thread to see the modified version)

Thanks. that was really helpful. I've decided to give you +1 karma because of all the help you've been giving me with all the decks I post. Every time I post a deck, you show me where I'm wrong and help me make it better. thank you

 

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