Post by: Chapuz on October 11, 2011, 12:51:00 pm
+ credits to Sevs, who built the deck I based on.
Okay, the only changes in the deck are seven of the eight cards of the combo.
4 Shard of Readiness
1 Mitosis
1 Sky Blitz (no change)
1 Silurian Dragon
1 Chimera (only needed against Phase Shield, Gravity Shield and Bone Wall).
How to play the combo (You will see, it's very funny^^) :
Step 1 : Put the Silurian Dragon into play and the Mitosis on it. Total amount of damages = 13
Step 2 : Put a Shard of Readiness on the Silurian Dragon and play its new free skill 2 times to get 2 additional dragons. Total amount of damages = 13 + 2*13 = 39
Step 3 : Repeat "Step 2" 3 times again. Don't forget you must play the shards on the mitosified dragon. Total amount of damages = 39 + 6*13 = 117
Step 4 : Play Sky Blitz for double damages. Total amount of damages = 117*2 = 234
Step 5 : Play the chimera to pass through shields. This step is not necessary if you have no total-blocking shield to pass through.
In conclusion, you can play the combo with only 7 cards if the opponent have no shield in play, or if that shield doesn't generate a damage reduction which exess 34.
Have fun ;)
It's a nice FG grinder and a badass Gold Arena killer too!
FG stats and screenshots comming soon.
Post by: Chapuz on October 11, 2011, 01:06:52 pm
Post by: Pineapple on October 11, 2011, 01:08:46 pm
also, i'd add in another hourglass.
Post by: Chapuz on October 11, 2011, 01:14:49 pm
-sogs +sancs/sundials?I will do some tests and post results tonight or tomorrow. Like more Sancts than Sundials, as they are PC fodders and creepy discord/devourer/BH stoppers.
also, i'd add in another hourglass.
Post by: Pineapple on October 11, 2011, 01:19:22 pm
Deck suggested by wstutt with +1 Hourglass (Essences's suggestion)I didn't mean to just shove an hourglass in there, I meant to take out a SoG for one.
Though, it may be a good idea to get more cards unless you plan on discarding chimera all the time..
Post by: Chapuz on October 11, 2011, 01:20:47 pm
Post by: Djhopper :) on October 11, 2011, 04:51:25 pm
I thought I'd try a "pure" rush version of this deck. This took nine turns, on my first test-run:
(http://imageplay.net/img/m7Gbd230493/Dragonic_OTK_PWNAGE_1.png)
(http://imageplay.net/img/m7Gbd230492/Dragonic_OTK_PWNAGE_2.png)
It is fast, but has a nine card otk, meaning to have to either start the combo before drawing the rest of it that turn with hourglasses or discard the liquid shadow.
Have fun!
Post by: siks on October 11, 2011, 08:24:52 pm
All FG without PC are easy with this deck. I won 7 out of 8 games so far. I guess I was lucky though - no Rainbow or Phoenix or anything of the sort
I bet Obliterator too - but he got his PC out pretty late in the game
Post by: Chapuz on October 11, 2011, 08:58:14 pm
I thought I'd try a "pure" rush version of this deck. This took nine turns, on my first test-run:IDK about any SN version of this deck, because you MUST draw the correct cards in the right order (4 SNs before getting the 8 combo cards). I think Sevs is gonna make a thread of a SN version which was posted on the Limitless Speed thread.
(http://imageplay.net/img/m7Gbd230493/Dragonic_OTK_PWNAGE_1.png)
(http://imageplay.net/img/m7Gbd230492/Dragonic_OTK_PWNAGE_2.png)
It is fast, but has a nine card otk, meaning to have to either start the combo before drawing the rest of it that turn with hourglasses or discard the liquid shadow.
Have fun!
And about the 9 card combo... it's vulnerable against CC because you must put a (ir some) dragons before the Chimera and that won't work on every FG. It's matter of taste adding or not a LS. I think the Electrum in FG are gaines with cards and not with EMs, so i would priorize the combo over the EM.
Post by: Djhopper :) on October 12, 2011, 03:53:38 pm
You don't have to put dragons down before you OTK. You just have to play the dragon, then draw the last five or so cards of your deck to get the rest of the combo cards.either start the combo before drawing the rest of it that turn with hourglasses or discard the liquid shadow.IDK about any SN version of this deck, because you MUST draw the correct cards in the right order (4 SNs before getting the 8 combo cards). I think Sevs is gonna make a thread of a SN version which was posted on the Limitless Speed thread.
And about the 9 card combo... it's vulnerable against CC because you must put a (ir some) dragons before the Chimera and that won't work on every FG. It's matter of taste adding or not a LS. I think the Electrum in FG are gaines with cards and not with EMs, so i would priorize the combo over the EM.
If you don't draw the dragon before your hand fills up then you just discard the LS and go for a normal kill.
That said, I still think a "pure speed" version could be good (even without LS, though in theory LS should get you more electrum per hour) What do you think of a FAST version?
Post by: darkrobe on October 12, 2011, 04:37:35 pm
ah, i see now. i guess as someone that uses feral bonds with mitosis decks i didnt understand why you were skimping on creatures.
Post by: loadquo on October 12, 2011, 04:59:48 pm
so I keep seeing people talking about how you can use shard of readiness to get two extra creatures. well ive been playing with the new shard and its obviously 3 extra creatures for a total of 4.The OTK decks play shard of readiness and mitosis on the first turn that the dragon comes out (avoiding summoning sickness). This gets 2 extra creatures. We're doing this to avoid CC. If you play a dragon and it gets eaten by an scarab or killed by a bolt, then you have lost your shot at an OTK.
You play mitosis. you mitosis said creature -> 2 creatures. then you play shard of readiness -> 2 more uses of mitosis for time creature -> 4 creatures.
here are some screens.
Post by: Chapuz on October 12, 2011, 05:41:05 pm
That's why it's a 7 (or 8) card combo. Dragon + mitosis + 4 shards + sky blitz + (optional) Chimera. Please read the explanation and comments of the OP xDso I keep seeing people talking about how you can use shard of readiness to get two extra creatures. well ive been playing with the new shard and its obviously 3 extra creatures for a total of 4.The OTK decks play shard of readiness and mitosis on the first turn that the dragon comes out (avoiding summoning sickness). This gets 2 extra creatures. We're doing this to avoid CC. If you play a dragon and it gets eaten by an scarab or killed by a bolt, then you have lost your shot at an OTK.
You play mitosis. you mitosis said creature -> 2 creatures. then you play shard of readiness -> 2 more uses of mitosis for time creature -> 4 creatures.
here are some screens.
Post by: Colossus on October 17, 2011, 07:27:42 pm
I will do some tests and post results tonight or tomorrow. Like more Sancts than Sundials, as they are PC fodders and creepy discord/devourer/BH stoppers.Any updates on this?
Post by: Chapuz on October 17, 2011, 11:31:21 pm
I tried but couldn's make it more stable with them., just don't worth putting them into the deck. It works really great as it is now.I will do some tests and post results tonight or tomorrow. Like more Sancts than Sundials, as they are PC fodders and creepy discord/devourer/BH stoppers.Any updates on this?
Post by: TheManuz on October 21, 2011, 09:20:39 pm
I thought I'd try a "pure" rush version of this deck. This took nine turns, on my first test-run:I tried this deck, and despite the over 9000 cards combo, its awesome! And it's relaxing to be sure you will get EM!
(http://imageplay.net/img/m7Gbd230493/Dragonic_OTK_PWNAGE_1.png)
(http://imageplay.net/img/m7Gbd230492/Dragonic_OTK_PWNAGE_2.png)
It is fast, but has a nine card otk, meaning to have to either start the combo before drawing the rest of it that turn with hourglasses or discard the liquid shadow.
Have fun!
Post by: xsindomanx on October 21, 2011, 09:48:26 pm
Yes, you have sundials to stop creatures from attacking, and hourglasses to get cards out faster, but even so ;;
I'm guessing it can work for arena + fg?
Post by: Chapuz on October 21, 2011, 10:01:15 pm
Have been wanting to try a fast deck like this, but isn't it a tiny bit risky having only 1 creature?Fat version is a badass FG and gold killer.
Yes, you have sundials to stop creatures from attacking, and hourglasses to get cards out faster, but even so ;;
I'm guessing it can work for arena + fg?
Post by: Cadron96 on November 20, 2011, 12:13:10 pm
I thought I'd try a "pure" rush version of this deck. This took nine turns, on my first test-run:I've been trying this one. It's great fun and really fast deck. However, there's one problem. Vampired Chimera doesn't give me EM. Have you got so either?
(http://imageplay.net/img/m7Gbd230493/Dragonic_OTK_PWNAGE_1.png)
(http://imageplay.net/img/m7Gbd230492/Dragonic_OTK_PWNAGE_2.png)
It is fast, but has a nine card otk, meaning to have to either start the combo before drawing the rest of it that turn with hourglasses or discard the liquid shadow.
Have fun!
Post by: Djhopper :) on November 20, 2011, 01:04:37 pm
Without vampage it should still be pretty darn fast :P
Post by: Cadron96 on November 21, 2011, 08:10:29 am
I thought I'd try a "pure" rush version of this deck. This took nine turns, on my first test-run:Actually I've also added some Sanctuaries (Another great thing in them is that first creature almost always hits me. VS Fire Queen it's only 3 dmg, but without healing it's still lack of EM) and Phase Shields (Sundials aren't always enough. Other thing is that you always have to play one per turn), so it is playable vs Dark Matter and really fast rush decks now. Unfortunately Decay usually eats all your entropy quantum before you can use supernova, so it looks that way now.
(http://imageplay.net/img/m7Gbd230493/Dragonic_OTK_PWNAGE_1.png)
(http://imageplay.net/img/m7Gbd230492/Dragonic_OTK_PWNAGE_2.png)
It is fast, but has a nine card otk, meaning to have to either start the combo before drawing the rest of it that turn with hourglasses or discard the liquid shadow.
Have fun!
It's great because with quantum pilars you have to wait for right mana. In here there's almost always enough time mana and other ones depend only on Supernovas :).
Post by: Djhopper :) on November 21, 2011, 04:31:07 pm
Post by: Anthraxx on November 23, 2011, 11:23:49 am
Post by: Icedrackon on January 08, 2012, 09:10:52 am
*dies*
Post by: Chapuz on January 08, 2012, 01:59:02 pm
More shard farming...? Why are the epic decks so full of shards?!There are many bronze and silver farmers to get the shards, even unupped with an acceptable win rate. It's just matter of searching on the forums.
*dies*
Post by: Arum on April 05, 2012, 07:48:51 am
Post by: Chapuz on April 05, 2012, 03:15:56 pm
Didn't mean to necrobump, but this needs one.Thanks lol
Post by: Arum on April 05, 2012, 04:14:13 pm
Anytime. If this gets more popular, I want 0.01% of the rep plz.Didn't mean to necrobump, but this needs one.Thanks lol
Post by: Chapuz on April 05, 2012, 06:54:44 pm
Unluckly it won't, because this was the deck Sevs based Instosis in, and that one works better and faster than this one, using the same combo strategy.Anytime. If this gets more popular, I want 0.01% of the rep plz.Didn't mean to necrobump, but this needs one.Thanks lol
Post by: pulli23 on April 05, 2012, 10:37:02 pm
doesn't use sn though.. I think a hybrid with like 4-5 sn will turn out best. (6 sn often make 2+ turn up in starting hand, and with incoming nerf that will be very bad).Unluckly it won't, because this was the deck Sevs based Instosis in, and that one works better and faster than this one, using the same combo strategy.Anytime. If this gets more popular, I want 0.01% of the rep plz.Didn't mean to necrobump, but this needs one.Thanks lol
Post by: Arum on April 06, 2012, 01:15:33 am
Possibly. 4 an, 2 n.doesn't use sn though.. I think a hybrid with like 4-5 sn will turn out best. (6 sn often make 2+ turn up in starting hand, and with incoming nerf that will be very bad).Unluckly it won't, because this was the deck Sevs based Instosis in, and that one works better and faster than this one, using the same combo strategy.Anytime. If this gets more popular, I want 0.01% of the rep plz.Didn't mean to necrobump, but this needs one.Thanks lol
Post by: AP579 on April 06, 2012, 02:48:52 am
Post by: Arum on April 06, 2012, 02:53:30 am
How is having two SN in hand bad? All you have to do is wait one turn. Oh noes, I got three novas in the starting hand, I'm going to die!Because you may misclick and click both SNs and generate a Singularity that will kill you. Literally.
Post by: Chapuz on April 12, 2012, 03:09:36 am
Not quite literally, it will just make you lose :PHow is having two SN in hand bad? All you have to do is wait one turn. Oh noes, I got three novas in the starting hand, I'm going to die!Because you may misclick and click both SNs and generate a Singularity that will kill you. Literally.
Post by: furballdn on April 12, 2012, 03:14:46 am
Terrible argument. You may as well arguing placing SoR on dragon before mitosis, accidentally clicking sky blitz, or accidentally sundialing while the OTK happens is bad. Only thing SN nerf does is perhaps slow down instosis so the initial hourglass comes out later.How is having two SN in hand bad? All you have to do is wait one turn. Oh noes, I got three novas in the starting hand, I'm going to die!Because you may misclick and click both SNs and generate a Singularity that will kill you. Literally.