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Re: I've GotP Time (1.27 Time-Aether FG Grinder) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22028.msg308154#msg308154
« Reply #84 on: April 08, 2011, 01:25:29 pm »
^ strong first post.
Anyway, I believe 10 men's stats, they're close to what I've gotten with this deck (well, about 30%ish percent with Hermes tbh). Never had the patience to do extensive testing though, and probably never will : ]

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Re: I've GotP Time (1.27 Time-Aether FG Grinder) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22028.msg308157#msg308157
« Reply #85 on: April 08, 2011, 01:29:10 pm »
Eternity is protected by Hourglasses. This is one of the decks where Hermes is medium/hard instead of impossible. It's usually down to draws in my experience, and 60% is not unrealistic at all. Try it, master it, and you'll see for yourself.
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Re: I've GotP Time (1.27 Time-Aether FG Grinder) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22028.msg308158#msg308158
« Reply #86 on: April 08, 2011, 01:30:02 pm »

It is your first post, man! And you already start to call one of our most credible players a liar?
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may if you stop wasting so much time posting here, and you will have more time to build up your deck  :D

anyways interesting you say that, actually i registered just to comment on this deck.
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Re: I've GotP Time (1.27 Time-Aether FG Grinder) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22028.msg308163#msg308163
« Reply #87 on: April 08, 2011, 01:35:58 pm »
may if you stop wasting so much time posting here, and you will have more time to build up your deck  :D
You seem to have an interesting personality BFC!

Eternity is protected by Hourglasses. This is one of the decks where Hermes is medium/hard instead of impossible. It's usually down to draws in my experience, and 60% is not unrealistic at all. Try it, master it, and you'll see for yourself.
In fact, Eternity has a higher priority than the hourglasses. However, you can make hermes "waste"/spend his explosions on the hourglasses (or better on the pillars) before you play your eternities.

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Re: I've GotP Time (1.27 Time-Aether FG Grinder) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22028.msg308165#msg308165
« Reply #88 on: April 08, 2011, 01:38:11 pm »
You're really off to a bad start here, son. SnoWeb is a well-known deck-builder for his skill, and he's far from lacking in electrum or cards. Trying to deride him when you know nothing about him isn't a very smart idea, nor is coming here to make uninformed comments without any factual backup. It has nothing to do with you being new and everything to do with your comments not being informed or constructive. They literally add nothing.

Eternity is protected by Hourglasses. This is one of the decks where Hermes is medium/hard instead of impossible. It's usually down to draws in my experience, and 60% is not unrealistic at all. Try it, master it, and you'll see for yourself.
In fact, Eternity has a higher priority than the hourglasses. However, you can make hermes "waste"/spend his explosions on the hourglasses (or better on the pillars) before you play your eternities.
And SoG's.
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Re: I've GotP Time (1.27 Time-Aether FG Grinder) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22028.msg308166#msg308166
« Reply #89 on: April 08, 2011, 01:40:19 pm »
First of all, i am not calling anyone a liar.

2ndly, I realize how the deck works.  I run a FG farmer very similar to this (eternity, lobo, 6 hourglasses, SoG, 5 Phase shield). and i play pure FG, nothing else. After hundreds of games,  I just refuse to believe you can use that build to get close to 60%.
(ok, i only have close to 2500 FG games)

Dear Higurashi, so i encourage YOU to try it out.

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Re: I've GotP Time (1.27 Time-Aether FG Grinder) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22028.msg308168#msg308168
« Reply #90 on: April 08, 2011, 01:46:15 pm »
SnoWeb is a well-known deck-builder for his skill, and he's far from lacking in electrum or cards.
Thanks. I'm glad to see that you don't find me "poor" anymore  ;D. You forgot to mention that the stats in question are filed by our friend 10men who grinds like ten men and has the number 1 score of the whole community (over 777k !). Wait and you'll see the guy propose to teach you how phase shield works ...  :))

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Re: I've GotP Time (1.27 Time-Aether FG Grinder) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22028.msg308169#msg308169
« Reply #91 on: April 08, 2011, 01:46:58 pm »
Also irrelevant, as is criticizing someone who didn't even make this deck. You should stay on topic. I've played it a fair deal as well, but that doesn't actually matter. As 10 men said, he got good stats. They always vary, especially since it's only 10 games per FG, but 60% isn't unreasonable. It's just good.

Your condescending attitude doesn't help the fact that you've yet to contribute neither different stats nor a single constructive comment to anyone. You've, so far, only insulted others and tried to brag about yourself. This isn't the place for pissing contests if you thought so. If you wish to contribute, collect more stats. If you've played a lot, it wouldn't be a problem, right? Making personal comments is just pointless, especially if you want to disprove someone. It only makes people skeptic toward you.

SnoWeb is a well-known deck-builder for his skill, and he's far from lacking in electrum or cards.
Thanks. I'm glad to see that you don't find me "poor" anymore  ;D.
When have I ever? :O

You forgot to mention that the stats in question are filed by our friend 10men who grinds like ten men and has the number 1 score of the whole community (over 777k !).
Wait and you'll see the guy propose to teach the master of Aether how phase shield works ...  :))
As much as I love the guy, I'd have to punch his face in if he did. x)
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Re: I've GotP Time (1.27 Time-Aether FG Grinder) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22028.msg308171#msg308171
« Reply #92 on: April 08, 2011, 01:55:18 pm »
I tried this deck myself (version 2 for being built by 10 men :p it's not like I had to put effort in getting the cards...) and think 60% might be reasonable, I didn't read anything about how to use this deck (me and my arrogance), some harder gods seem a bit high on win rate, though I think 60% overall is still very much possible. I was surprised myself how well it did against Octane for instance (UGs ignore Phase Shields!!1!one).

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Re: I've GotP Time (1.27 Time-Aether FG Grinder) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22028.msg308172#msg308172
« Reply #93 on: April 08, 2011, 01:58:01 pm »
I tried this deck myself (version 2 for being built by 10 men :p it's not like I had to put effort in getting the cards...) and think 60% might be reasonable, I didn't read anything about how to use this deck (me and my arrogance), though some harder gods seem a bit high on win rate, though I think 60% overall is still very much possible. I was surprised myself how well it did against Octane for instance (UGs ignore Phase Shields!!1!one).
60% overall is very reasonable. That's about what I get.
I am only saying 60% on Hermes is not, which I have a lot of trouble with.
A direct opinion, why are people mad?

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Re: I've GotP Time (1.27 Time-Aether FG Grinder) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22028.msg308185#msg308185
« Reply #94 on: April 08, 2011, 02:34:21 pm »
Your condescending attitude, clearly.


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Re: I've GotP Time (1.27 Time-Aether FG Grinder) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=22028.msg308463#msg308463
« Reply #95 on: April 08, 2011, 09:30:14 pm »
In fact, Eternity has a higher priority than the hourglasses. However, you can make hermes "waste"/spend his explosions on the hourglasses (or better on the pillars) before you play your eternities.
Yes. Except you don't want that. :P (on the Pillars it's fine of course)
Hourglass is the most important permanent against Hermes, way more than Eternity. If you manage to keep an Eternity that's fine, but its primary purpose is to protect the Hourglass. In fact I will make some effort against him to play Eternity in the same turn as the Hourglass to have it protected immediately. Hermes doesn't need to be put into Eternity lock, he can be beaten completely without them in fact. Just spam Hourglasses, hide them behind Eternities and yourself behind Phase Shields. Then win with something random, either you get double Eternity eventually, or you Fractal some Ghosts (careful with his Firestorm) or you TU a big Destroyer and Quint it.
As for the 60%, those are a little above average (as I noted in my post btw) but not by much. The guy has Heavy Armors and Protect Artifacts. Seriously. (If you want to complain about my numbers you should focus on the Dream Catcher matchup btw. There I really got lucky. I would have been happy with 20% there.)
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