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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg534717#msg534717
« Reply #528 on: August 19, 2012, 04:04:18 am »
Play the nova and get the sing. You won't care much about it unless the game drags on without the dial.
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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg534720#msg534720
« Reply #529 on: August 19, 2012, 04:31:19 am »
so never play a dial too early? I find im sometimes impatient and play dials as soon as i see them for the extra draws, and there's a chance to get an hourglass. If you dont have an hourglass on the board or in your hand can you play sundial just to try getting one?
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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg534722#msg534722
« Reply #530 on: August 19, 2012, 04:35:05 am »
There's a guide on when to chain dials, page one.
Generally, follow it. Unless you can draw the whole deck using the dials and the glasses, then freely chain.
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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg534723#msg534723
« Reply #531 on: August 19, 2012, 04:37:17 am »
Play the nova and get the sing. You won't care much about it unless the game drags on without the dial.

Early in the game? No, sing will traipse all over you.

The best option in that case is sometimes to discard. Chimera against gods without shields that affect you, one supernova against gods without quanta control, one hourglass if your hand has more and you have plenty of dials. Comes down to situation.

If you have many dials in hand against a god without really fast damage, it could also be worth it to just play the spare dial and draw with it if you can.

But I've never had a case where getting a sing is better than a discard in the early game. On the turn you win, or maybe even a turn before, yes.
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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg534724#msg534724
« Reply #532 on: August 19, 2012, 04:47:15 am »
Dial stops all creatures, including sing. Chimera turns sings into meat shield.
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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg534730#msg534730
« Reply #533 on: August 19, 2012, 05:39:27 am »
Then you have no chimera if you need it. In that case, you can't let singularities run rampant because they'll overpower the damage needed for the OTK.

In the case that you don't need it, I'd rather discard in case everything goes wrong and your chain breaks, or it's destroyed.

I suppose it could pay off occasionally though,
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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg534734#msg534734
« Reply #534 on: August 19, 2012, 06:16:32 am »
I've played about 60 games with it and have maybe a 40% win/loss for some reason. (been playing around with it on the trainer)
I know most of it is my problem, not knowing exactly when to chain my dials, when to discard or go ahead and get singularity, or other general adjustment-to-new-deck syndrome problems. I don't actually have the full upped deck though. I have 6 upped SoRe and 5 upped Nova... That's about it   :-X

The only way I could make enough coins quick to up most of the deck would be to sell my RoL/Hope (My only deck, which is fully upped)


My question is:
FOR FG GRINDING ONLY, If I had all Novas upped, SoRe upped, Dragon upped, and 10 - 15 other upped cards, would the deck preform decently? Or at least better than a fully upped RoL/Hope (archangels with no upped Hope of course  ;))?

Would a half-upped Instosis give me a higher Win/Loss than an upped RoL/Hope?

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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg534737#msg534737
« Reply #535 on: August 19, 2012, 06:19:03 am »
Hm no idea. If towers, HG, SNs, SoR, and dragon are upped, that seems better than RoL/hope in my opinion. Without towers, I don't really know. Perhaps fully upped rol/hope would be better then.

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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg534738#msg534738
« Reply #536 on: August 19, 2012, 06:29:42 am »
My question is:
FOR FG GRINDING ONLY, If I had all Novas upped, SoRe upped, Dragon upped, and 10 - 15 other upped cards, would the deck preform decently? Or at least better than a fully upped RoL/Hope (archangels with no upped Hope of course  ;))?
Would a half-upped Instosis give me a higher Win/Loss than an upped RoL/Hope?

You definitely need upped dials for Instosis to work vs FG's. I think maybe Chimera and Mitosis can be un-upped without hurting the deck, but Sky Blitz, dials, towers and everything else pretty much needs to be upped.

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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg534739#msg534739
« Reply #537 on: August 19, 2012, 06:30:26 am »
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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg534741#msg534741
« Reply #538 on: August 19, 2012, 06:31:45 am »
My question is:
FOR FG GRINDING ONLY, If I had all Novas upped, SoRe upped, Dragon upped, and 10 - 15 other upped cards, would the deck preform decently? Or at least better than a fully upped RoL/Hope (archangels with no upped Hope of course  ;))?
Would a half-upped Instosis give me a higher Win/Loss than an upped RoL/Hope?

You definitely need upped dials for Instosis to work vs FG's. I think maybe Chimera and Mitosis can be un-upped without hurting the deck, but Sky Blitz, dials, towers and everything else pretty much needs to be upped.
Nope. Some people run it without upped dials to not mess with mulligan. Instosis is totally doable without upped dials, although I definitely recommend you get upped towers if you do use unupped dials. Chimera and mitosis can be used unupped yes, and sky blitz should be upped. Towers are actually pretty important though.

Selling RoL/Hope will net you what? 30k or something?

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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg534744#msg534744
« Reply #539 on: August 19, 2012, 06:51:41 am »
I'd say stick with RoL hope. It has a winrate pretty close to instosis that it's not that big a difference until you can make instosis fully upped.

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