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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg455584#msg455584
« Reply #276 on: February 01, 2012, 11:13:41 am »
Uhm and then have 6 sundials & 18 cards left to go?
Your point being?
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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg455590#msg455590
« Reply #277 on: February 01, 2012, 11:26:22 am »
Uhm and then have 6 sundials & 18 cards left to go?
Your point being?
he's trying to say that you cant draw all the remaining cards fast enough to be safe if you lose all the hourglasses (aka nonsense) :P

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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg455595#msg455595
« Reply #278 on: February 01, 2012, 11:39:28 am »
Uhm and then have 6 sundials & 18 cards left to go?
Your point being?
he's trying to say that you cant draw all the remaining cards fast enough to be safe if you lose all the hourglasses (aka nonsense) :P
Then tell me what you do when you see something like eternal phoenix destroy your first 2 hourglasses, and have 5 phoenixes out? You'll have to start chaining  sundials when you have 18 cards left... And even with 5 sundials that's at most 10 more cards.

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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg455600#msg455600
« Reply #279 on: February 01, 2012, 11:43:12 am »
Uhm and then have 6 sundials & 18 cards left to go?
Your point being?
he's trying to say that you cant draw all the remaining cards fast enough to be safe if you lose all the hourglasses (aka nonsense) :P
Then tell me what you do when you see something like eternal phoenix destroy your first 2 hourglasses, and have 5 phoenixes out? You'll have to start chaining  sundials when you have 18 cards left... And even with 5 sundials that's at most 10 more cards.

try and quote me when i said it was impossible to have a situation where you were gonna get killed because you lost all the hourglasses and the sundial chain would not be enough to get the combo out before dying... of course you can get an example of this

but MOST OF THE TIME, you can and will get all the cards you need from hourglasses and the sundials, even when losing some of them to PC

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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg455601#msg455601
« Reply #280 on: February 01, 2012, 11:45:55 am »
As per the guide, you want to draw out PC with Towers against FG's like EP. Losing either Dials or HG's can be disastrous as you've seen, although it depends on how many you have left. If you draw a lot of HG's and you're able to keep one going, that's usually enough.

In other words, you only want to sacrifice HG's if you have a surplus of them or Dials, or if it's mid/late-game.
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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg455608#msg455608
« Reply #281 on: February 01, 2012, 12:08:25 pm »
As per the guide, you want to draw out PC with Towers against FG's like EP. Losing either Dials or HG's can be disastrous as you've seen, although it depends on how many you have left. If you draw a lot of HG's and you're able to keep one going, that's usually enough.

In other words, you only want to sacrifice HG's if you have a surplus of them or Dials, or if it's mid/late-game.
Even doing that, sometimes the FGs with 12 PC don't let you a single  :))
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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg455625#msg455625
« Reply #282 on: February 01, 2012, 01:22:34 pm »
As per the guide, you want to draw out PC with Towers against FG's like EP. Losing either Dials or HG's can be disastrous as you've seen, although it depends on how many you have left. If you draw a lot of HG's and you're able to keep one going, that's usually enough.

In other words, you only want to sacrifice HG's if you have a surplus of them or Dials, or if it's mid/late-game.
Even doing that, sometimes the FGs with 12 PC don't let you a single  :))
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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg455756#msg455756
« Reply #283 on: February 01, 2012, 11:00:46 pm »
I just quit anyway, since my annoyance tolerance level is really low.

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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg455808#msg455808
« Reply #284 on: February 02, 2012, 01:53:13 am »
Here's my question:  do you quit if you have no towers in your opening hand against medium and hard gods?  I usually do but I'm not sure if I should be.

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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg455830#msg455830
« Reply #285 on: February 02, 2012, 03:04:40 am »
Here's my question:  do you quit if you have no towers in your opening hand against medium and hard gods?  I usually do but I'm not sure if I should be.
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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg455842#msg455842
« Reply #286 on: February 02, 2012, 03:41:16 am »
Yea, I should play on for a few more turns to see what kind of game will happen.

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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg457155#msg457155
« Reply #287 on: February 06, 2012, 04:39:18 am »
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