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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg412467#msg412467
« Reply #96 on: October 19, 2011, 11:43:17 am »
This is the most horrifying deck I've ever played. I feel apprehensive playing SoRs when I only have 8-10 :air and staring at :air icon hoping to god it doesn't drain any. That said, great job this deck is seriously awesome. I'd already switched Quints for the SoRs in the GotP time deck I run for versatility and thought that worked well, but this one is so fast.

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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg412477#msg412477
« Reply #97 on: October 19, 2011, 11:58:10 am »
I'd suggest this being put under play tips, because sometimes you don't get to play all 6 Snovas and sometimes are stuck with 8-10 to start with. And in those cases where its on the wire you really do not want to lose a game you should have won if you just played smart.

Just as a noting feature for people that worried about it, and a helpful tip in general. You get 234 with the classic layout of 9 dragons after 4 SoR's, each dragon diving for 26. However if you're worried about your Sky Dive quanta, you can technically get away with something provided you have chimera or your opponent has no defenses.

Silurian + Mitosis + SoR + SoR + SoR + Sky Dive + SoR.

This leaves you with 7 dragons diving and 2 not, but it lets you play your sky dive before that last SoR to decrease the necessity to bank on luck not draining that needed quanta.

26x7 (182) + 13x2 (26) = 208

Enjoy.

Ps: This is the same mechanic that lets you get away with only 3 SoR's if you play your dragon 1 turn early.

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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg412528#msg412528
« Reply #98 on: October 19, 2011, 02:41:05 pm »
I've calculate the probability to successfully cast Sky Dive with 12, 10, 8 air quanta given that you have enough quanta in all other colors:
[12  :air] = 99.8 %
[10  :air] = 92.8 %
[8  :air] = 35.2 %

If one color is depleted (let’s say time ;))
[12  :air] = 96.5 %
[10  :air] = 87.9 %
[8  :air] = 31.9 %

Don't be too worry to cast it with 12 or 10  :air quanta.

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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg412624#msg412624
« Reply #99 on: October 19, 2011, 08:12:48 pm »
Silurian + Mitosis + SoR + SoR + SoR + Sky Dive + SoR.

This leaves you with 7 dragons diving and 2 not, but it lets you play your sky dive before that last SoR to decrease the necessity to bank on luck not draining that needed quanta.

26x7 (182) + 13x2 (26) = 208

Enjoy.

Ps: This is the same mechanic that lets you get away with only 3 SoR's if you play your dragon 1 turn early.
I have actually done that a few times but you are right it is a good tip. The problem though is if you dont have chimera even a 1 damage shield stops the combo. Ill add it though
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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg413893#msg413893
« Reply #100 on: October 21, 2011, 09:32:00 pm »
I don't see how you can wait til 30hp to start chaining sundials since by that point the poison damage alone would kill you in a turn or two...

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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg414080#msg414080
« Reply #101 on: October 22, 2011, 06:40:40 am »
I don't see how you can wait til 30hp to start chaining sundials since by that point the poison damage alone would kill you in a turn or two...
*Is confused* where does it say chain at 30HP for a poison God?
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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg414227#msg414227
« Reply #102 on: October 22, 2011, 04:12:49 pm »
I don't see how you can wait til 30hp to start chaining sundials since by that point the poison damage alone would kill you in a turn or two...
*Is confused* where does it say chain at 30HP for a poison God?
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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg414905#msg414905
« Reply #103 on: October 23, 2011, 07:36:18 pm »
Just replying so I dont lose track of this  :P

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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg414973#msg414973
« Reply #104 on: October 23, 2011, 10:43:21 pm »
Saw this http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,31072.msg425026#msg425026 with 10,000 electrum per hour and grinded hard for a few hours to get the extra 10 k or so needed to make this deck.

After a bit of practice so that you know how to time your sundials, it really works like a miracle, although I haven't reached that dream 10k / hr yet.
(5 upped cards in 20 min!)

Also works very good with arena gold and platinum, though it is very weak against PC.

An extra tower might help from time to time

@elite arbiter's suggestion (didn't want to quote as it's really big): That is a good suggestion. In one of my first games, I had just used all my SORs to get the dragons, and clicked sky blitz, only to find that I only had 7 air quarta remaining due to the SORs.
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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg417213#msg417213
« Reply #105 on: October 29, 2011, 01:08:38 am »
Usually I skip Dark Matter with this because of Black Hole/Amber Nymph, but this time I played it out.  He got one black hole on the first turn before I played any novas, and never played one after that, so I beat him.  It is possible; you just have to get really lucky like that :)

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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg418255#msg418255
« Reply #106 on: October 30, 2011, 10:38:54 pm »
Well, the EM variant (-1 hg, +1 ls) got nerfed, now vampires heal after the damage is done, so you won't em with a big bad vampiric chimera.

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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg418265#msg418265
« Reply #107 on: October 30, 2011, 10:53:47 pm »
Well, the EM variant (-1 hg, +1 ls) got nerfed, now vampires heal after the damage is done, so you won't em with a big bad vampiric chimera.

Damn :/ I guess it is a good thing i dont use that variant. But i guess the best news out of this is the fact that SoR wasnt nerfed :)
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