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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg483429#msg483429
« Reply #420 on: April 19, 2012, 04:14:21 am »
Well, apparently Akebono, and another one or two if I remember correctly, have been given Shards.

Osiris has Shards of Focus as well now. Doesn't draw them too often though....

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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg483534#msg483534
« Reply #421 on: April 19, 2012, 10:58:46 am »
It's very abused, before we had this advantage of shards on FGs and now FGs have shards   >:(

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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg483538#msg483538
« Reply #422 on: April 19, 2012, 11:22:05 am »
actually i always felt fg's should be made almost impossible to beat. They're supposed to be GODS. When i first saw fg's i thought there would be just one with the same deck as lvl 0 but while being allowed to draw 20+ cards per turn. oh well
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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg483548#msg483548
« Reply #423 on: April 19, 2012, 11:58:57 am »
The addition of a couple of shards into a couple of FGs is not such a big deal for Instosis.
The bigger problem for Instosis in v1.3 is the change in targeting priority. Previously if you had hourglasses and a sundial out, the FGs would target the HG with their PC, so they still stayed stalled by the sundial and you could win if the FG did not get too many PC. However, now they will target sundial primarily, which means practically all FGs with PC will beat you unless you get really lucky and they do not draw any.

I believe this targeting priority change has significantly reduced the winning ratio of Instosis against many gods.
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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg484095#msg484095
« Reply #424 on: April 20, 2012, 05:42:48 am »
The addition of a couple of shards into a couple of FGs is not such a big deal for Instosis.
The bigger problem for Instosis in v1.3 is the change in targeting priority. Previously if you had hourglasses and a sundial out, the FGs would target the HG with their PC, so they still stayed stalled by the sundial and you could win if the FG did not get too many PC. However, now they will target sundial primarily, which means practically all FGs with PC will beat you unless you get really lucky and they do not draw any.

I believe this targeting priority change has significantly reduced the winning ratio of Instosis against many gods.

I know but i wonder if it can be abused so that sundials are bait for something else more usefull like dim shield
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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg484913#msg484913
« Reply #425 on: April 21, 2012, 02:54:24 pm »
actually i always felt fg's should be made almost impossible to beat. They're supposed to be GODS. When i first saw fg's i thought there would be just one with the same deck as lvl 0 but while being allowed to draw 20+ cards per turn. oh well

They're actually false gods. I think a 70% win rate is fair against a false god. I was hoping that there could be some kind of epic quest set up, which is rare, and is a fight against a real god who makes those false gods look like pansies. not that they aren't already.

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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg485843#msg485843
« Reply #426 on: April 23, 2012, 04:10:15 am »
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Thankfully, the next god was Paradox and I won.

Edit: Great thing is that it doesn't care about singularities unless they get vamped. Otherwise, 234 is high enough to drown out that -7. A Diamond Shield AND a Singularity STILL doesn't require a Chimera.
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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg486346#msg486346
« Reply #427 on: April 24, 2012, 03:19:05 am »
Gave up after losing 12 games in a row in 1.30, not playing it wrong (aside from a little mistake in 1 game).
Those who said that the Super Nova Nerf wouldn't affect this deck much should try it. If 2-3 SN are at the bottom, it is pretty much impossible to win.
Minimum 4 SN are needed for the Sky Blitz, that if you are very lucky and the SoR don't eat any single point of :air. With 5 SN there is still a good chance that  :air drops under 8.

Starting from the 3rd turn, you have to use a SN every turn. If you pass 2 or more turns without using one, you can't win, unless the FG has little damage on the field (won't happen).

Not to mention FGs with PC wich are more than half of them. They are now quite close to impossible to beat with this.

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Edit: Great thing is that it doesn't care about singularities unless they get vamped. Otherwise, 234 is high enough to drown out that -7. A Diamond Shield AND a Singularity STILL doesn't require a Chimera.
Ohh, you are right. I was simply "banning" singularities :-[
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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg486369#msg486369
« Reply #428 on: April 24, 2012, 03:55:54 am »
Oh well, PC is beginning to ruin this deck, especially repeated. And along with the AI priority change.

And of course, if the Singularities PU too much, you can't Chimera or it'll be too low. The Singularities are already there so they heal them to 200 before the dragons win anyway.
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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg486491#msg486491
« Reply #429 on: April 24, 2012, 11:25:18 am »
How does one win with this deck - or better yet, how does people still say it reaches 50%+? I'm at 33% average now after around 20-30 games in 1.33. Worse and slower than rolhope ><

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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg486492#msg486492
« Reply #430 on: April 24, 2012, 11:27:30 am »
with the AI change and nova|Supernova nerf, i already changed my FG grinder...

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Re: Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32309.msg486671#msg486671
« Reply #431 on: April 24, 2012, 06:53:59 pm »
These 13 are still extremely easy
Destiny
Paradox
Ferox
Firequeen
Miracle
Elidnis
Gemini
Incarnate
Lionheart
Neptune
Obliterator
Scorpio
Seism

13/29 is ~45%
plus all the mediums Serket Jezebel Morte Chaos Lord hecate decay.  i can easily see how it tops 50% still.
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