Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena]

[mrtwigie01]

what does PC stand for?

[willng3]

what does PC stand for?

Permanent Control.  Deflagration, Steal, Pulverizer, etc.

[Ifailgood]

I owuld build this, but I have no SoR.

[furballdn]

I owuld build this, but I have no SoR.

Sadly, SoR is central to this deck. 4 of them actually.

[Jocko]

I tried it, I won some matches (lost even more )
This won't be my new farmer

One bad day doesn't mean you should drop the deck altogether.

You're probably right,
Maybe i'll try it later again

Besides, you will probably lose more than you win. But the magic of FGs mae it profitable anyways.

[Absol]

I tried it, I won some matches (lost even more )
This won't be my new farmer

Believe me or not, i was skeptical too at first.
But then i tried playing semi-upped. I could up the rest of the deck in a day. (before that i struggled to up a card a day)
And after fully upped, i could up the JMZ Classic and the Wrecking ball in a day for each. This is really the best bang for your bucks.

[zhangvict]

I have been using my 3 shard + PU version for two days and while I can't compare it with the 4 shard version, I must say that I have found the flexibility of PU to be very useful many times. Sometimes when bad luck happens and I get all 8 cards required for the combo without enough quanta and cannot discard a card, I can just PU the opoment's bone dragon or light dragon or other 10dmg+ flying creature to free up space, then draw from my sundials and hourglasses to get more SN or time towers to get the 12 time quanta I need to finish the job, or 1 more sundial to stall (wont work with gods with cc). Same effect, still get 200+ dmg at the end for OTK. Without the PU, I would have been forced to discard chimera or something, which is obviously not an option for gods with bone shield or other blocking stuff.

[pulli23]

From the (independent) tests of jenkar it seems dream catcher, jezebel & hermes ought to be "auto quitted". Seems like this deck is even more vulnerable to PC than to pests? - Probably because with the speed of this deck you can outrush pests?

(Well I still auto-quite if I see a pest with destroy on the first turn  ).

Upped few more sundials - 1 to go- wondering if I can ever win vs seism now. (Haven't seen him since I went from 6 unupped sundials to 1)

[Sevs]

From the (independent) tests of jenkar it seems dream catcher, jezebel & hermes ought to be "auto quitted". Seems like this deck is even more vulnerable to PC than to pests? - Probably because with the speed of this deck you can outrush pests?

(Well I still auto-quite if I see a pest with destroy on the first turn  ).

Upped few more sundials - 1 to go- wondering if I can ever win vs seism now. (Haven't seen him since I went from 6 unupped sundials to 1)

I will say jezebel is defintely not an auto quit you have to let her steal your towers before you play anything
but decay is much easier than i thought you have to get SN off early and if you cant you lose but the deciding factor is very early into the game. Hermes is always difficult with any deck. I wonder if someone can merge the 2 stats toegther to really see which gods are hardest

[Zso_Zso]

I have not recorded the stats (sorry, I was too lazy for that) but I did play several hundred games farming FGs in the past few weeks using this deck. I have my own rating system for the FGs where I rank them in 0-5 range, where 0 means impossible to beat, 1 means you have very little chance (less than 10%) to win, 3 for roughly 50-50 chance (maybe 40-60%), and finally 5 for the very easy ones where you almost always win (except for some horrible bad draw). I have been using this system for RoL/Hope, Limitless-speed, voodoo-panic and most recently for Instosis. Each time I setup my numbers initially based on the stats posted on this forum, but then I adjust them if I keep getting results that are not consistent with the expectations. Here are my current numbers for Instosis:

False-god	spin	rating	CC-PC	limit
Akebono	48%	5	no-PC	C50HP
Chaos-Lord	34%	2	CC+PC	C50HP
Dark-Matter	36%	1	CC+PC	C50HP
Decay	50%	2	CC+PC	C50HP
Destiny	38%	5	no-PC	~25HP
Divine-Glory	54%	3	no-CC	~50HP
Dream-Catcher	33%	1	CC+PC	~50HP
Elidnis	33%	5	no-PC	~30HP
Eternal-Phoenix	46%	2	CC+PC	~50HP
Ferox	38%	5	None	~30HP
Fire-Queen	43%	4	no-PC	~50HP
Gemini	42%	5	no-PC	~30HP
Graviton	40%	3	CC+PC	C50HP
Hecate	45%	3	CC+PC	C60HP
Hermes	34%	2	CC+PC	~60HP
Incarnate	41%	4	no-PC	C30HP
Jezebel	49%	1	CC+PC	~50HP
Lionheart	40%	5	no-PC	~30HP
Miracle	33%	4	None	~30HP
Morte	33%	3	no-PC	C70HP
Neptune	40%	4	no-PC	~50HP
Obliterator	41%	4	CC+PC	~50HP
Octane	49%	1	CC+PC	~1FW
Osiris	47%	5	no-PC	~60HP
Paradox	41%	5	no-PC	~30HP
Rainbow	32%	2	CC+PC	~ASAP
Scorpio	32%	4	no-PC	~6P
Seism	36%	4	CC+PC	~30HP
Serket	41%	3	None	~6poison

Legend:

• spin chance of getting a card in the spin
• rating the above explained difficulty rating
• CC-PC indicates whether the god has creature and/or permanent control
• limit safe health limit to start your sundial chain, if first character is 'C' it indicates that you need the Chimera

I have downgraded Jezebel to 1, because it is a wild-card case, to often has too many steals to deal with and then pulls a black-hole nymph or unstable-gas.
I used to have dark-matter rated 0, but I upgraded him to 1, because I beat him twice, nevertheless, the 1-rated gods should still be skipped IMHO if you are going for earning/time ratio.

[PoLdeR]

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Have u tried this version??
I thought, since every time i lose a match against a god it counters its cuz of too little HGs, this might work better. But it could just trade one bad draw for the other..
Only stats can figure out whats better.. Anyone wanna make them for me??

Also,
PVP version i recommend is:

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[UnderneathTheLens]

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Have u tried this version??
I thought, since every time i lose a match against a god it counters its cuz of too little HGs, this might work better. But it could just trade one bad draw for the other..
Only stats can figure out whats better.. Anyone wanna make them for me??

Also,
PVP version i recommend is:

by DarkGDude

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I don't like the idea of only 5 SNs, but I haven't tried it, so who knows.
For the PVP version, you don't really need that much damage. Can't you take out at least 1 SoR?