Instosis [FG][OTK][Arena]

[Sevs]

Someone should do a TTW of instosis only, with unupped sundials.

talking of ttw I wonder if it qualifies for willng's speedbow thread jk.

6 turn win vs Miracle     (My pet was photon)



Got him the game right after that... so 7 turn EMed him

Wow with 11 cards left, pretty ridiculous draw.
I wonder what the fastest possible win could be.

Go 2nd
Hand : 5 x Time Tower Hourglass Hourglass SN
Turn 1 :play towers 1 x HG
End : 6 time 1 entropy 1 x HG

Hand : hourglass SN SN
Turn 2 : draw HG play HG
End : 6 time 2 entropy 2xHG

Hand : Hourglass SN SN SN
Turn 3 : play 3 SN use 2xHG to draw SN, Silurian, play SN, hourglass
End : 13 time 3xHG 3 entropy

Hand : Silurian , mitosis
Turn 4 : 3xHG draw (SORx3)
End : Enough quanta 3xHG

Hand : Silurian , mitosis, 4xSOR
Turn 5 : 3xHG draw (Skyblitz, Chimera, SN)
Play combo
End : Win

Sundials coud replace draws meaning 4/5 turns could have been protected.

go 2nd
Hand 1 = 4xSN time tower silurian mitosis skyblitz

Hand 2 = sundial 4xSN  silurian mitosis skyblitz

Hand 3 = silurian mitosis skyblitz Sundial  (SoR)

Hand 4 = Silurian Mitosis Skyblitz SoR Sundial (SoR)

Hand 5 = Silurian Mitosis Skyblitz 3xSoR (SoR)

[pulli23]

So after testing, what has becomes best?

Unupped sundials, upped? - Or partially upped?

I'm running unupped sundials atm, however I am constantly in lack of time quanta when I need to play the combo...


EDIT: how the heck am I supposed to play against seism.. It states easy, but from all 8 games I lost all 8. He constantly time-denies me, playing hourglasses doesn't leave enough time for dragons, and otherwise I'm way to slow.

He just destroys all time pillars the moment you create them.

[Jenkar]

So after testing, what has becomes best?

Unupped sundials, upped? - Or partially upped?

I'm running unupped sundials atm, however I am constantly in lack of time quanta when I need to play the combo...


EDIT: how the heck am I supposed to play against seism.. It states easy, but from all 8 games I lost all 8. He constantly time-denies me, playing hourglasses doesn't leave enough time for dragons, and otherwise I'm way to slow.

He just destroys all time pillars the moment you create them.

Against seism, it's pwetty easy if you remember this : Never use more than 12 time quanta for your hourglasses/drawing, unless he leaves one of your tower alone. I recommend playin' them one at a time.

[pulli23]

So after testing, what has becomes best?

Unupped sundials, upped? - Or partially upped?

I'm running unupped sundials atm, however I am constantly in lack of time quanta when I need to play the combo...


EDIT: how the heck am I supposed to play against seism.. It states easy, but from all 8 games I lost all 8. He constantly time-denies me, playing hourglasses doesn't leave enough time for dragons, and otherwise I'm way to slow.

He just destroys all time pillars the moment you create them.

Against seism, it's pwetty easy if you remember this : Never use more than 12 time quanta for your hourglasses/drawing, unless he leaves one of your tower alone. I recommend playin' them one at a time.

Well as I play with unupped sundials (Got really really fed up with having no towers first turn), this basically means you can only do 2 "hourglass pulling". - So before you're through all cards (and that is needed when you already used 12 time) you're 16 turns further. Taking the guess that the last 2 cards will be hourglasses (!), this means you can only start chaining sundials after the 8th turn. So you got to survive 8 turns while taking less than 60 damage.

Possible? - obvious; Easy? - rather hard in my books.

[Higurashi]

You're comparing a rating set for the existing deck with a different deck. He's easy-medium for the posted deck. If you use a different version, it obviously changes. Thus, you can't dispute the rating of Easy.

[Gandora]

Just asking to know if I'm right:
Silurian dragon is used because all other possible dragons need 6 SN ?
(excepting crimson dragon, which needs 5 SN and has still enough atk and ruby dragon would do the combo also with 3 SoR but needs 6 SN)
Because, not being used to this deck yet, it happens that I used too much time so that I wasn't able to pay for the Silurian dragon.
So I wondered if other dragons could be a replacement, allowing more draws with hourglass.

[pulli23]

Because silurian is a TIME creature, and time creatures get a bonus from shard of readiness.. (use 2 times the skill)

[Gandora]

Because silurian is a TIME creature, and time creatures get a bonus from shard of readiness.. (use 2 times the skill)

oh. how could I forget this? xD
I'm sorry, looks like it's time to sleep xP

[r2krebirth]

i want to use this deck... sadly i lack shard of readiness

[zhangvict]

With 4 shards of readiness, you get 9 dragons each of 13 dmg and then double it all in sky blitz. That's 230+ damage.

Wouldn't it be better to use only 3 shards of readiness and a parallel universe? You will get 1 dragon + 6 from shards of readiness + 1 from Parallel universe = 8 dragons, x 2 damage from sky blitz = 208 damage.


Less risk of the last shard using up some  quantum and messing up your blitz, and making good use of the quantum not being used.

[Sevs]

With 4 shards of readiness, you get 9 dragons each of 13 dmg and then double it all in sky blitz. That's 230+ damage.

Wouldn't it be better to use only 3 shards of readiness and a parallel universe? You will get 1 dragon + 6 from shards of readiness + 1 from Parallel universe = 8 dragons, x 2 damage from sky blitz = 208 damage.


Less risk of the last shard using up some  quantum and messing up your blitz, and making good use of the quantum not being used.

If you are worried about air quanta you can skyblitz after 3 SoR and then use the 4th after, leading to 7x26 +2x13 = 208 damage as well. but the issue with that is Damage reduction shields. Such as jade, mirror, diamond... without the 4th SoR before skyblitz, you will need chimera to OTK. The non reliance on chimera is what makes this deck successful.

[zhangvict]

Ahh, yes, I get it, if the damage reduction of the shield is more than 1, then the total damage dealt by the 8 dragons will be less than 200.


How about ruby dragons instead of siluarians? They cost 12 fire  and deal 15 dmg. You will need only 3 shards of readiness and no parallel universes at all, making it 6 cards w/o chimera

1 dragon 15 dmg --> mitosis ---> SoR -->SoR --> SoR --> 7 dragons 105 dmg --> blitz --> 210 dmg

Can stand up to 1 shield reduction, only needs 7 cards for a OTK against a Dim shield, hope etc.

Downside is that you will need to draw all 6 of your supernovas to get the 12 , but significantly reduces reliance on time towers and saves 1 card. Maybe can replace a time tower and use up the saved space for 3 fire towers. Or replace with 2 precogs instead to help you faster draw the supernovas.

Lol, I am mostly looking a way that uses 3 SoR because I only have 3.