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Ghosts of Denial https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42631.msg531301#msg531301
« on: August 10, 2012, 03:17:37 am »
Much better, original deck http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29813.0
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Ghosts of Denial
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SNovas = qaunta for everything, helps Ghosts, and SoFos
Discord = three to hopefully get one somewhat early
QuickSand = for obvious reasons
SoFo = shields, weapons, lones pillars and then the beautiful Black holes
Games are slower but usually not much from the opponent.
If you want it to be 30 cards, you could take out a SoFo, Quicksand, (or Supernova--though not recommended.)
Not really tested anywhere, I'm sure it does well in Ai3, probably bronze maybe Silver.
Have fun
« Last Edit: August 11, 2012, 04:16:42 am by Opsinis »

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Re: Ghosts of Denial https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42631.msg531308#msg531308
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2012, 03:26:55 am »
Discake+DBH+Ghostmare.  Awesome.  While Ghostmare doesn't really synergize with denial because of the overlap of discarding useful creatures/abilities and keeping some stuff in hand to ward off nightmare, the sheer power of this combo should outweigh that.  Excellent job, although Time quanta seems like it would be stretched.

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Re: Ghosts of Denial https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42631.msg531310#msg531310
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2012, 03:29:20 am »
Have you considered using Mark of Entropy and swapping to purely (or mostly) Time Towers? The supernovas will refund their cost, the only other thing you need  :entropy for is Discord. You are really gonna need faster  :time generation

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Re: Ghosts of Denial https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42631.msg531313#msg531313
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2012, 03:31:15 am »
Have you considered using Mark of Entropy and swapping to purely (or mostly) Time Towers? The supernovas will refund their cost, the only other thing you need  :entropy for is Discord
I think that might make discord too slow.  You need an early discord because once creatures are out, you have no RT/Eternity to bring them back to the hand. You'll probably get a 2nd turn discord with this deck, and that's usually fast enough to wait out until you can bring the heavy denial (SoFo/EQ/BH).

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Re: Ghosts of Denial https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42631.msg531314#msg531314
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2012, 03:34:38 am »
Just looking at this deck makes me want to ragequit, but it would probably work pretty well. It would just make for a mess for the opponent to try to get cards out.
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Re: Ghosts of Denial https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42631.msg531315#msg531315
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2012, 03:34:56 am »
This will mess up the blackholes, but unupped novas might be better with extra sofos and no earthquakes.
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Re: Ghosts of Denial https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42631.msg531316#msg531316
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2012, 03:38:16 am »
Have you considered using Mark of Entropy and swapping to purely (or mostly) Time Towers? The supernovas will refund their cost, the only other thing you need  :entropy for is Discord
I think that might make discord too slow.  You need an early discord because once creatures are out, you have no RT/Eternity to bring them back to the hand. You'll probably get a 2nd turn discord with this deck, and that's usually fast enough to wait out until you can bring the heavy denial (SoFo/EQ/BH).
Right Cheesy, that's my aim. And with all that control there isn't much room for CC.
This will mess up the blackholes, but unupped novas might be better with extra sofos and no earthquakes.
Sure, but I don't feel it needs so many SoFo (like your 6 SoFo deck).
But thanks, any feedback helps

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Re: Ghosts of Denial https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42631.msg531332#msg531332
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2012, 04:31:13 am »
4 quicksands are overkill. Maybe remove 1?
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Re: Ghosts of Denial https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42631.msg531334#msg531334
« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2012, 04:33:48 am »
This will mess up the blackholes, but unupped novas might be better with extra sofos and no earthquakes.

With novae instead of supernovae getting a ghost out will be

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Re: Ghosts of Denial https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42631.msg531343#msg531343
« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2012, 04:43:25 am »
4 quicksands are overkill. Maybe remove 1?
That was something I was thinking about, but it's great to have one or two early.
I'll update OP with possible decrease in Quicksands.

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Re: Ghosts of Denial https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42631.msg531441#msg531441
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2012, 07:18:14 am »
Is pretty close to the 2nd version of my deck: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,37753.msg474199.html#msg474199
Just that my is DBH+Ghostmare and your is Discake+Ghostmare.
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Re: Ghosts of Denial https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42631.msg531528#msg531528
« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2012, 02:14:47 pm »
Is pretty close to the 2nd version of my deck: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,37753.msg474199.html#msg474199
Just that my is DBH+Ghostmare and your is Discake+Ghostmare.
I suppose (by the way your looks good) that they are similar.
Mine is much more focused on quick denial. A quick Discord, a quick Quicksand, a quick SoFo (which I will get a Black Hole from).
Mine has more Nightmares so Hand-locking is a reality.
And of course mine doesn't have all the extra creatures, Ghostmare is the main strategy and Denial keeps it safe

 

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