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Re: Fractal + RV + Bone (Soul Catcher duo) - FG-grinder with Retrovirus !!! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16696.msg213912#msg213912
« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2010, 10:37:54 pm »
the only thing worse than testing anti-FG deck in trainer is testing anti-FG deck in trainer with cards in development
take everything you've got with a grain of salt
use it to catch any bugs and whatnot, dont get overexcited about it

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Re: Fractal + RV + Bone (Soul Catcher duo) - FG-grinder with Retrovirus !!! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16696.msg213985#msg213985
« Reply #13 on: December 01, 2010, 12:33:21 am »
Kobi your such a buzz kill and we know that already. :P

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Re: Fractal + RV + Bone (Soul Catcher duo) - FG-grinder with Retrovirus !!! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16696.msg214251#msg214251
« Reply #14 on: December 01, 2010, 08:45:39 am »
the only thing worse than testing anti-FG deck in trainer is testing anti-FG deck in trainer with cards in development
take everything you've got with a grain of salt
use it to catch any bugs and whatnot, dont get overexcited about it
Kobi your such a buzz kill and we know that already. :P
lol

I started that testing to see if that deck concept could work. And since it did, I continued to see how well it works ie to see whether that Soul Catcher is OP in this deck concept. So basically I was testing should the card be nerfed before releasing. According to these limited results I had with this deck, it seems to be in par with Hope/RoL and :rainbow, so nerfing that card isn't needed.

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Re: Fractal + RV + Bone (Soul Catcher duo) - FG-grinder with Retrovirus !!! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16696.msg214455#msg214455
« Reply #15 on: December 01, 2010, 05:14:15 pm »
never said anything about nerfing in this particular thread
i said dont get your hopes up guys
my original sentiment on this card...

not sure about your definition of game-changer but if they spawn a prominent deck archetype comparable to those such as RoL/Hope, i say that is a game-changer

but we'll see (once the bug is fixed and whatnot)

in any case, i like to see something comparable to RoL/Hope
that in itself would be good for the environment (more diversity)
...as you can see, is actually in agreement with what you said zse
but seems to me once they fix the quanta bug, it wont be as powerful as it is now (that if they did not change anything else)

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Re: Fractal + RV + Bone (Soul Catcher duo) - FG-grinder with Retrovirus !!! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16696.msg214457#msg214457
« Reply #16 on: December 01, 2010, 05:17:24 pm »
I independently came up with a deck that's very similar to this. Mine's more focused on pvp though.
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Also, what's this quanta bug people keep mentioning? I haven't had any issues when messing around with this deck.

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Re: Fractal + RV + Bone (Soul Catcher duo) - FG-grinder with Retrovirus !!! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16696.msg214495#msg214495
« Reply #17 on: December 01, 2010, 07:05:38 pm »
I independently came up with a deck that's very similar to this. Mine's more focused on pvp though.
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Also, what's this quanta bug people keep mentioning? I haven't had any issues when messing around with this deck.
That's almost like my version. Almost.
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Re: Fractal + RV + Bone (Soul Catcher duo) - FG-grinder with Retrovirus !!! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16696.msg214586#msg214586
« Reply #18 on: December 01, 2010, 10:00:30 pm »
never said anything about nerfing in this particular thread
i said dont get your hopes up guys
my original sentiment on this card...

not sure about your definition of game-changer but if they spawn a prominent deck archetype comparable to those such as RoL/Hope, i say that is a game-changer

but we'll see (once the bug is fixed and whatnot)

in any case, i like to see something comparable to RoL/Hope
that in itself would be good for the environment (more diversity)
...as you can see, is actually in agreement with what you said zse
but seems to me once they fix the quanta bug, it wont be as powerful as it is now (that if they did not change anything else)
Yes, I saw your post on that topic. I just tried to explain how I was testing it to catch those whatnot issues of the card, kobis. :P
i'm try this thing on trainer  and it's generate more than 3   with 4 upgraded SC   it's generate 30  :death    :o

test it with unupgrade version
1 SC = 2  :death
2 SC = 6  :death instead of 4 (quote modified by zse)
3 SC = 12  :death instead of 6
4 SC = 20  :death instead of 8
5 SC = 30  :death instead of 10
6 SC = 42  :death instead of 12

testing it in upgraded version
1 SC = 3  :death
2 SC = 9  :death instead of 6
3 SC = 18  :death instead of 9
4 SC = 30  :death instead of 12
5 SC = 45  :death instead of 15
6 SC = 63  :death instead of 18

what is it?   :o
I think the bug was fixed already yesterday. *double checks: yes bug is fixed now*

While I was playing my 3rd winning game (on post#1) I saw that bug in action, but when I continued later, it had already been fixed. That being said, this deck could possibly be just that good if Soul Catcher comes into real game the way it's in trainer now.

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Re: Fractal + RV + Bone (Soul Catcher duo) - FG-grinder with Retrovirus !!! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16696.msg214794#msg214794
« Reply #19 on: December 02, 2010, 03:57:01 am »
Now that I think about it lightning ball might a good tech. Might not have quanta to drop enough dragons, but as long as you can play fractal you can get as many BL/LB ( whatever it is) out.

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Re: Fractal + RV + Bone (Soul Catcher duo) - FG-grinder with Retrovirus !!! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16696.msg214926#msg214926
« Reply #20 on: December 02, 2010, 09:11:27 am »
Now that I think about it lightning ball might a good tech. Might not have quanta to drop enough dragons, but as long as you can play fractal you can get as many BL/LB ( whatever it is) out.
No, Ball Lightning isn't that good. Single use 5|0 are pretty useless against Shields FGs use, and on top of that it messes up the mulligan (=automatically getting new starting hand if you don't have any 0-cost cards):
In case someone is thinking "Why Thunderbolt?" It's there in case of not getting Pendulums, but only Soul Catcher. Then you can burn one of your opponents creatures to gain :death. I could have used BallL, but that being 0-cost, can mess the initial hand 4% more often:
p(mulligan, 35 cards with 11 0-costs) = 5,15%
p(mulligan, 35 cards with 15 0-costs) = 1,15%

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Re: Fractal + RV + Bone (Soul Catcher duo) - FG-grinder with Retrovirus !!! https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16696.msg219294#msg219294
« Reply #21 on: December 08, 2010, 02:59:41 am »
don't be so excited
before soul catcher be developed, there were fractal virus decks that use fractal condors as finisher instead of dragons, but never be a well-known anti-FG deck

 

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