Fire Stall. I know, I wtf'ed, too.

[Uncle Jellyfish]

UPDATED: This is the current version of the deck that I use now. It is better at beating HBs as well as PvP, and can stand a slightly longer time against some FG's (though I do not recommend it).

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PvP1 and/or unupped Fire Stalls:
LifeLockable's unupped Fire Stall: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,23347.0.html
Toimu13's 12 unupped Fire Stalls: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,21756.msg297663#msg297663
SpikeSpiegel's unupped Fire Stall: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,23661.msg322679#msg322679
Mithcairion's PvP1 Fire Stall: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,19882.msg269086#msg269086
Essence's unupped creature-based Fire Stall http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,26942.new.html

I know there are others out there, just too lazy to look. Send me a link if you want me to add your deck to the list.

I ran across a similar deck in PvP (it was also 40 cards) and it slaughted me completely. I talked with the creator (who's name escapes me) and he told me a little about the deck. I went into the trainer and built it, tested it, LOVED it, improved it, and this is what I got:

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The trick is to use the REs and Lances to control creatures, and to use the Explosions for annoying perms (Bonds, SoGs, weapons). Fahrenheits are the main win condition, but Lances CAN be used if needed. SoGs keep you alive and act as Steal/Explosion fodder. I've played roughly 40 games with this version of the deck, and haven't lost once (against HBs, T50, and AI3). Even if you can't kill the opponent, in PvP, they'll likely deck out. With no creatures, the deck doesn't need to worry too much about Rainbows or Aflatoxin decks, and has enough kill to fight back rush.

Comments? Concerns? Frustrations?

EDIT:: Changes to the deck: -1 RE +1 FS. After playing a lot more, and with further impute from safko01, Firestorm has been shown to come in handy on a few occasions, and when it doesn't make a big difference, it can still hit a whole field for some decent damage and put the enemy creatures in killing range of RE and Lances.

Also, it has come to my attention that some people have been having some success with this deck against FG's. Though it is by no means fast or consistant, I just wanted to note that. Perhaps someone could help me develop a Fire Stall for taking on FGs?

[Demagog]

I think I've seen this deck before... I didn't think much of it because it didn't put up much of a fight, but that may have just been due to the deck I was using. It is interesting though, and neat that fire has an alternative approach.

[Essence]

No RoFs?  Really?  Looks solid though.

And I lol'd at the title.

[killsdazombies]

Iv used a deck like this and this one seems more effective.

[Hobnob5000]

This would fail against mono-aether. Nothing to target with RE/FL. Still, looks interesting. I never thought of fire being used as a defence.

[Uncle Jellyfish]

No RoFs?  Really?  Looks solid though.

And I lol'd at the title.

I tried it with RoF, but it really doesn't need it. I tend to kill creatures as soon as they hit play, so having RoF would just be a waste of space. The rare time when someone plays a Fractal and spams the same turn that they play a creature can usually be counted quickly, and rarely poses too big of a threat.

This would fail against mono-aether. Nothing to target with RE/FL. Still, looks interesting. I never thought of fire being used as a defence.

The Fire Bucklers and SoGs help a lot with immaterial creatures, and even so, you can usually get past the shield and kill them first, since mono-Aether rarely ever has healing.



Also, @Killsdazombies: I LOVE your avatar. FLCL ftw! XD

[revskank]

hey mate,

i've just posted a similiar deck:

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,6529.0.html (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,6529.0.html)

i would add in a few fire storms and lose a few rage elixirs, you've got too much single target damage.  protect artifacts can be important in keeping your buckler up at all times, plus your shards to keep you alive.

[Bloodshadow]

Also, @Killsdazombies: I LOVE your avatar. FLCL ftw! XD

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Just so you know, I made that avatar. Check the "Make your own Marks" thread in the Art forum. Some random guy came to me and gave me a symbol, asked me to make a Mark for him. I did.

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[Uncle Jellyfish]

i would add in a few fire storms and lose a few rage elixirs, you've got too much single target damage.  protect artifacts can be important in keeping your buckler up at all times, plus your shards to keep you alive.

As stated above, the opponent will almost NEVER have more than two or three creatures in play at a time unless they save them up and rush in one turn, so RoF is ultimately unneeded. With this much control, you can ensure that your opponent won't be able to kill you with creatures. PA would be a nice addition, except it would only clutter the deck, and honestly, it's not needed. With two Bucklers, three Fahrenheits, six SoGs, and Towers, there are more than enough permanents to outlast your opponent's perm-kill. Even if there is a PAed Pulvy (god forbid), by the time it becomes a threat, you'll already have won.

Don't get me wrong, your deck is good, and I'm not claiming superiority, but Firestorms and Protect Artifacts are not needed. Trust me, build it in the trainer and try for yourself. =)

[revskank]

As stated above, the opponent will almost NEVER have more than two or three creatures in play at a time unless they save them up and rush in one turn, so RoF is ultimately unneeded. With this much control, you can ensure that your opponent won't be able to kill you with creatures. PA would be a nice addition, except it would only clutter the deck, and honestly, it's not needed. With two Bucklers, three Fahrenheits, six SoGs, and Towers, there are more than enough permanents to outlast your opponent's perm-kill. Even if there is a PAed Pulvy (god forbid), by the time it becomes a threat, you'll already have won.

Don't get me wrong, your deck is good, and I'm not claiming superiority, but Firestorms and Protect Artifacts are not needed. Trust me, build it in the trainer and try for yourself. =)

Yeah - I see what you're saying, i've just noticed that there are quite a few players in PVP running fractal decks that ROF really helps with.

[Hobnob5000]

RoFs would help a lot vs Fractal decks. I personally would recommend putting in at least one or two.

[Uncle Jellyfish]

RoFs would help a lot vs Fractal decks. I personally would recommend putting in at least one or two.

Honestly, I don't see too many Fractal decks. Yes, Pest and Phoenix decks that use Fractal would stand a better chance, but unless they fractal the same turn that they come into play, it's not likely to be too big of a threat. No deck is perfect, and I'm not saying that this one is, but it is definately well built and will stand up to many different situations.

On a sidenote, Bonewalls are annoying against this deck. >.<