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Re: Eternal Chaos (with some stats and a guide for grinding FGs) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20173.msg267168#msg267168
« Reply #72 on: February 08, 2011, 08:14:48 pm »
Just EM'd octane with this deck, only half upped at that.

I love scorpions killing FGs, I gotta get around to tweaking it sooner or later tho.
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Re: Eternal Chaos (with some stats and a guide for grinding FGs) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20173.msg267174#msg267174
« Reply #73 on: February 08, 2011, 08:30:02 pm »
I was kind of smitten by this deck, but today I went 2 wins to 20 losses straight. My score dropped down a lot and I got over this deck.

There are just more things that can go wrong than can go right. Quanta is the main issue as I said before. Any destruction, stealing or blackholes set you backs turns and turns.

You are lucky if you get an early shield.

The final straw was me with tons of HP kicking Eternal Chaos's butt. I was pretty close to winning but I started having to rewind my scorpions. NP until he stole my eternity thus decking me.


so many other times I have been within 1 turn of winning with this deck that it is too frustrating to continue. I think it does a better job at more FGs than CCYB, but some gods for CCYB are really easy while this deck struggles against all the FGs.


I think it is a good idea, but not good enough to takeover my FG grinding with CCYB.
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Re: Eternal Chaos (with some stats and a guide for grinding FGs) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20173.msg267562#msg267562
« Reply #74 on: February 09, 2011, 07:37:19 am »
Just EM'd octane with this deck, only half upped at that.

I love scorpions killing FGs, I gotta get around to tweaking it sooner or later tho.
Good Work, TNG. Sad you don't have a screenshot for our intra-thread EMscreenshot competition...

Here is mine (made today after i answered to MrBlonde ;) ):

Just an hour later (during my mid-morning break) I just EM'd Decay:

Left for the competition: missing EMscreenshot : Divine Glory, Dream Catcher, Eternal Phoenix, Paradox, Rainbow and Scorpio.

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Re: Eternal Chaos (with some stats and a guide for grinding FGs) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20173.msg267565#msg267565
« Reply #75 on: February 09, 2011, 07:42:13 am »
I have exactly the same feeling with this deck. Personally it just takes too long in my eyes. I did about 40 games, and only got a handfull of wins, where it took me around 20-30 turns to get there.

It is a nice deck, but not for grinding FG. Too slow, and last turn losses are plenty. I like to know as early as possible that I am going to lose so I can quit and move on.
I personally like this deck. But i did have one nightmarishly slow game with miracle. Basically i had to use 3 Chaos powers on 1 dune to finally get a poison counter (due to jade shield) and this was when i had 5 cards left so i pretty much decked Miracle out and this is with me rewinding his creatures a bunch of time. Beyond the occasional slow game though i like it. Only have 27 games under my belt so we shall c. It's not as slow as Lone Stalker at least.

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Re: Eternal Chaos (with some stats and a guide for grinding FGs) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20173.msg267570#msg267570
« Reply #76 on: February 09, 2011, 07:53:39 am »
But i did have one nightmarishly slow game with miracle. Basically i had to use 3 Chaos powers on 1 dune to finally get a poison counter (due to jade shield) and this was when i had 5 cards left so i pretty much decked Miracle out and this is with me rewinding his creatures a bunch of time.
A similar drama happen to me vs Obliterator. He had an early protected diamond shield. I used my 3 CP on 1 scorpion to get 3 times +1 atk!!! I had to antimatter it later to get my first neurotoxin counter ... I was lucky he didn't play his pulveriser before my other scorpion with BE was out. It was a hard battle. ;)

Also, I'm glad to see that the Death lovers (MrBlonde and TNG) like this deck. Nice way to poison your opponent isn't it;)

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Re: Eternal Chaos (with some stats and a guide for grinding FGs) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20173.msg267714#msg267714
« Reply #77 on: February 09, 2011, 06:13:34 pm »
Working towards this deck. 9000 :electrum spare and I didn't know what to up, I think this would be really nice. It was either this or firestall, so...
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Re: Eternal Chaos (with some stats and a guide for grinding FGs) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20173.msg270736#msg270736
« Reply #78 on: February 14, 2011, 03:11:20 pm »
Ok, great deck, but I'm baffled by the statistics for Dark Matter and Decay.

For Dark Matter, I've only ever seen one game in which he didn't use black hole every turn (first via card, then nymph). There was one, special game in which he didn't and I managed to get my turtle shield, eternity, and some shards out. But at that point, he had about 4 chargers, two angels, etc., and there was no way to fully keep up. I'd love to hear some more specific strategies for how you get a 75% win rate. It's all well and good to suggest using antimatter on chargers and rewinding nymphs, but ... that's a bit difficult if he's spamming black hole every turn and I never have quanta.

For Decay, I see how to beat him and I came close once, but that was only because I got a scorpion/chaos power out on my second turn. Still, he had no problem chaining drain life and keeping ahead of the poison. I saved up towers to play shards, but he cheerfully stole these. I suppose I could have saved up quanta for some "bait" hourglasses, but it's not like I had quanta to spare or the time to waste doing it since he was busy killing me.

Anyway. I love the deck, but I'd love to hear some more specific strategies for these gods. They easily wipe the floor with me every time.

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Re: Eternal Chaos (with some stats and a guide for grinding FGs) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20173.msg270773#msg270773
« Reply #79 on: February 14, 2011, 05:00:50 pm »
A trick for decay: when you have the turtle shield up, the quanta are only absorbed from the devourer going out of the time bubble whereas the damage is only done by those going in. This means that if the devourers are synchronized you can have quanta every two turns ... (this helps).

A trick for dark matter: don't play your pillar/pendulums too early. Save them for when you can play your eternity.

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Re: Eternal Chaos (with some stats and a guide for grinding FGs) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20173.msg270870#msg270870
« Reply #80 on: February 14, 2011, 09:21:34 pm »
A trick for decay: when you have the turtle shield up, the quanta are only absorbed from the devourer going out of the time bubble whereas the damage is only done by those going in. This means that if the devourers are synchronized you can have quanta every two turns ... (this helps).

A trick for dark matter: don't play your pillar/pendulums too early. Save them for when you can play your eternity.
For the Dark Matter tip, I personally think that it would be better to play those Towers/Pends early so she will use all those Black Holes early. The Eternity wouldn't be of much use when Dark Matter keeps denying you of Rewinds anyway.

How do you beat Hermes? You said there is a 30% win rate against him but so far I have yet to be victorious against him.
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Re: Eternal Chaos (with some stats and a guide for grinding FGs) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20173.msg270875#msg270875
« Reply #81 on: February 14, 2011, 09:32:05 pm »
A trick for decay: when you have the turtle shield up, the quanta are only absorbed from the devourer going out of the time bubble whereas the damage is only done by those going in. This means that if the devourers are synchronized you can have quanta every two turns ... (this helps).

A trick for dark matter: don't play your pillar/pendulums too early. Save them for when you can play your eternity.
For the Dark Matter tip, I personally think that it would be better to play those Towers/Pends early so she will use all those Black Holes early. The Eternity wouldn't be of much use when Dark Matter keeps denying you of Rewinds anyway.

How do you beat Hermes? You said there is a 30% win rate against him but so far I have yet to be victorious against him.
DM will play the Black Holes regardless of how much quanta you have on the board...AI stupidity FTW.  May as well save up quanta until Dark Matter is done making a fool of itself.  As for Hermes...I seem to recall having trouble with him.  Eternities not getting blown up definitely helped.  Occasionally I would have to AM + BE his biggest Destroyer to prevent it from outgrowing the Antimatter.  Basically I just played my permanents smart.  Usually how I kill him anyways.
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Re: Eternal Chaos (with some stats and a guide for grinding FGs) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20173.msg271258#msg271258
« Reply #82 on: February 15, 2011, 01:12:53 pm »
DM will play the Black Holes regardless of how much quanta you have on the board...AI stupidity FTW.  May as well save up quanta until Dark Matter is done making a fool of itself.
This is perfectly true. DM is using Black Holes as an ass ----!

As for Hermes...I seem to recall having trouble with him.  Eternities not getting blown up definitely helped.  Occasionally I would have to AM + BE his biggest Destroyer to prevent it from outgrowing the Antimatter.  Basically I just played my permanents smart.  Usually how I kill him anyways.
Against Hermes it is almost impossible to have the BEed scorpion up and running. You'd better use your BE as an expensive lobo (see first screenshot in Hermes guide OP).

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Re: Eternal Chaos (with some stats and a guide for grinding FGs) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20173.msg271262#msg271262
« Reply #83 on: February 15, 2011, 01:35:07 pm »

You need to find the trick ... (CP gave 3 Atk).
You need to be lucky with Chaos Power. Play Dune Scorpion, use Chaos Power, if it gives 5 you can't gain EM, if it gives 4 or less you Antimatter it and the poison + healing reduces the opponent to 4 or less hp. Eternity for the kill, after SoGs kick in.
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