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Downward Delta - a PVP2 Smoker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12566.msg158210#msg158210
« on: September 14, 2010, 04:27:42 am »
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??'s are 5x Dune Scorpions and 7x Time Pendulums, all unupped at the moment.


This deck is just mean in PVP2.  There's enough permanents that you can generally overwhelm the couple of Steals and Deflags that rush decks pack; enough healing that you can often outlast a rush until you can poison it down; enough Dune Scorps and Chaos Powers that you can usually get one out in the first 3 turns.  Control decks suffer even more from Neurotoxin and offer even less resistance.


Some potential swaps: add an Animate Weapon or a Dissipation Shield (unupgraded), maybe? 


« Last Edit: April 19, 2012, 07:17:11 pm by willng3 »
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Re: Downward Delta - a PVP2 Smoker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12566.msg158222#msg158222
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2010, 05:19:39 am »
I would go a different route:

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Feel free to add Sundials if you feel you need em.The scorps just need one attack and Momentum helps them to get through.Rest is pure defense.
Arsenic,Momentum + Scorps can all be played after Nova(s).

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Re: Downward Delta - a PVP2 Smoker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12566.msg158223#msg158223
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2010, 05:23:43 am »
Actually, Dune Scorp costs 3, so you have to Supernova twice to cast it.  That'll drastically reduce your speed in many games as you wait for the 2nd Supernova to get drawn.
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Re: Downward Delta - a PVP2 Smoker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12566.msg158225#msg158225
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2010, 05:25:00 am »
Go for Time Pendulums then.

gonna end up like this otherwise :

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Re: Downward Delta - a PVP2 Smoker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12566.msg158260#msg158260
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2010, 07:39:04 am »
Some potential swaps: add an Animate Weapon or a Dissipation Shield (unupgraded), maybe?
3rd Eternity and Animate Weapon help fighting rush decks, but Dissipation Shield isn't worth it. Instead try Turtle Shield and upped Pandemonium. TurtleS has great synergy with Antimatter, while Pandemonium can help Eternities to clean board from a horde of critters.

PS. Why start new topic when this deck looks so much alike ESco (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,11715.0.html)?

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Re: Downward Delta - a PVP2 Smoker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12566.msg158403#msg158403
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2010, 03:29:19 pm »
awesome deck. but i believe changing 2 time pendulums for time towers is better for some situations.

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Re: Downward Delta - a PVP2 Smoker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12566.msg158889#msg158889
« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2010, 04:47:22 am »
But if he changed to pillars then he probably wont get enough entropy quatum to use the antimatter, chaos power, and etc.

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Re: Downward Delta - a PVP2 Smoker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12566.msg159286#msg159286
« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2010, 12:18:55 am »
And also can this work not upgraded.  If it can't can you make one that can.

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Re: Downward Delta - a PVP2 Smoker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12566.msg159466#msg159466
« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2010, 10:18:17 am »
And also can this work not upgraded.
Un-upped SoG are totally useless, and Chaos Seed & Chaos Power don't work the same way. So to use this :entropy :time version of the deck, you need at least those upped.

Another widely used way to use DuneS. is to take :gravity and use Unstoppable, like in the deck Sal posted. Un-upped version of Unstoppable - Momentum - can also be used with DuneS.

Third way to use DuneS. is to go rainbow, and that leaves you many different ways to tweak your deck to perform optimally for you. That hasn't become all that popular, since using Lava Golem or Firefly Queen or Boneyard has proven to be good ways to go.

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Re: Downward Delta - a PVP2 Smoker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12566.msg164384#msg164384
« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2010, 11:37:06 pm »
Why start new topic when this deck looks so much alike ESco (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,11715.0.html)?

Cause I never saw ESco.  :)
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Re: Downward Delta - a PVP2 Smoker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12566.msg164545#msg164545
« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2010, 07:08:01 am »
Why start new topic when this deck looks so much alike ESco (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,11715.0.html)?

Cause I never saw ESco.  :)
OK, sure thing. It must have been the other "PVP organizer/Master of Water named Essence" that posted in that topic and gave me my first karma point...  ;D

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Re: Downward Delta - a PVP2 Smoker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12566.msg169417#msg169417
« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2010, 01:18:05 am »
Hahaha -- well, there goes my theory.  I guess I have to call memory loss from being old.  31 is old enough to claim memory loss, right? :p
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