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Skinner's Pigeon | Skinner's Pigeon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12598.msg158681#msg158681
« on: September 14, 2010, 10:57:20 pm »
NAME:
Skinner's Pigeon
ELEMENT:
Air
COST:
2 :air
TYPE:
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ATK|HP:
2|2
TEXT:
:entropy :entropy : Strange Gesture
Maybe if you keep doing this, something good will happen?
NAME:
Skinner's Pigeon
ELEMENT:
Air
COST:
2 :air
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
3|4
TEXT:
:entropy :entropy : Strange Gesture
Maybe if you keep doing this, something good will happen?
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NOTES:
Strange Gesture is a one time use ability and each subsequent turn there is a 35% | 55% chance the creature will gain chaos power.

There is a 1% chance to gain momentum, adrenaline or vampire, just for kicks.

For those that did not take psych 101 or do not remember B.F. Skinner from said class, he was able to make pigeons become superstitious by making them hungry before producing feed at random intervals.  The birds would think whatever they were doing at the time the feed was produced was actually what produced the feed, so they would keep doing whatever it was they were doing (bopping their head counter-clockwise, flapping their left wing three times and pausing etc) over and over, in the hopes that it would produce food.

i know how to add an :entropy and art credit onto the card itself, and that will be done prior to level 1 submission, but it will not be done on versions prior.
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Re: Skinner's Pigeon | Skinner's Pigeon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12598.msg158687#msg158687
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2010, 11:09:10 pm »
This card is not OP or UP in my oppinion. Since you only have a 45% and 65% chance to get a chaos buff. But wouldnt this card need to be  :air type since it is a bird? I like the art. I laughed when I saw it.

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Re: Skinner's Pigeon | Skinner's Pigeon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12598.msg158749#msg158749
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2010, 12:30:38 am »
thats true.  i did not think of air because air is really, really boring overall and usually not on my mind.  then again isnt a cockatrice a bird (i know its more, but as far as the image goes, i cant see anything but bird in the art)
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Re: Skinner's Pigeon | Skinner's Pigeon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12598.msg158777#msg158777
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2010, 12:55:29 am »
 :o Air is not boring!!! Air is flowing, catastrophic, gentle and all around us. The ability of an :air Elemental to work with it is not to be mocked let alone be called boring. It's like calling Earth boring if you look at just dirt, or Water boring if you look at a puddle.

As for the card, I really like it, the art, and the Strange Gesture mechanism intrigues me. I'll have to see where you go with it moomoose. It also seems to finely teeter between the serious nature of Maxwell's Demon and the humour of Holy Cow, which I admire. I have to commend your creativity when it comes to suggesting. Kudos to you.
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Re: Skinner's Pigeon | Skinner's Pigeon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12598.msg158843#msg158843
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2010, 02:54:12 am »
:o Air is not boring!!! Air is flowing, catastrophic, gentle and all around us. The ability of an :air Elemental to work with it is not to be mocked let alone be called boring. It's like calling Earth boring if you look at just dirt, or Water boring if you look at a puddle.
Agreed. Air is extremely underrated. D:

Anyways, am I too young to get the reference of this card? O_O

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Re: Skinner's Pigeon | Skinner's Pigeon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12598.msg158852#msg158852
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2010, 03:06:20 am »
Probably, it's a Psychology reference, as is so helpfully stated in the notes section  :))
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Re: Skinner's Pigeon | Skinner's Pigeon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12598.msg158888#msg158888
« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2010, 04:46:56 am »
Nice card, cute art.

Really like the mechanic, just got to say that if it was a one-time cost, it'd give quite a synergy with Adrenaline.
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Re: Skinner's Pigeon | Skinner's Pigeon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12598.msg158894#msg158894
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2010, 04:55:53 am »
Interestingly, if the element were changed to  :air then it would be the first and only bird (creature) to actually be of the air element.  Which is amusing because I personally thought that birds belonged in the air element (call me crazy, right?).  Anyways, nice idea; good synergy for something running fallen druid/elf.
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Re: Skinner's Pigeon | Skinner's Pigeon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12598.msg158925#msg158925
« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2010, 06:17:27 am »
I really don't like how most of the cards people create are game-changers, or cards meant to have entire decks built around them. Since I don't think people share my opinion that more ability-less creatures should be created, I really like this idea for a down-to-earth, situational, but game-expanding card like this. Elements needs a LOT more cards, they all don't need to be incredibly powerful, or incredibly strategic. Some of them can just be solid, interesting, usable cards like this one. I like it a lot.

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Re: Skinner's Pigeon | Skinner's Pigeon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12598.msg158945#msg158945
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2010, 07:27:46 am »
Hah, more real-life references. While having it happen at random intervals would be more fun for the player, it would have to be a rather low chance so it would not grow too large in a stall deck.
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Re: Skinner's Pigeon | Skinner's Pigeon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12598.msg158991#msg158991
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2010, 11:48:09 am »
the thing is chaos power itself is random as well, the buff could be rather weak or pretty good, just the roll of the dice, so even in a stall deck it could continuously get no or very little growth.

and honestly i am leaning more towards a one time use ability at this point, which would make it random every turn afterward.  the chance would probably go down to 30% and 40% respectively and the cost would probably go up to 2 :entropy.  but this would probably allow for more strategic options and less tedium than clicking each bird each turn.

im still on the fence as to if it should be :life :entropy or :air :entropy , but i think air is more appropriate, although it would probably be used more in life decks.
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Re: Skinner's Pigeon | Skinner's Pigeon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=12598.msg158996#msg158996
« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2010, 12:13:19 pm »
Of course it's random. It's not that random, though. Was recently updated to give 1-5 in both attack and HP. My point remains.
After 5 turns, it would on average gain 4.5 with a 30% chance and 6 with 40%, and that seems fine to me. Would be relatively cheap and strong.
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