Sadism | Improved Sadism

[moomoose]

NAME: Sadism ELEMENT: Darkness COST: 1 TYPE: Permanent ATK|HP: TEXT: Players are healed when their creatures take damage	NAME: Improved Sadism ELEMENT: Darkness COST: 1 TYPE: Permanent ATK|HP: TEXT: You are healed when your creatures take damage

ART: public domain: http://www.sxc.hu/photo/1137875 IDEA: moomoose NOTES: another form of dark pleasure, enjoying the pain of others.  the basic version affects both players, the upgraded version only affects the owner. damage healed to the player is equal to damage done to the creature. this works well in combination with voodoo dolls as well as with tailored decks, creatures with gravity pull will become more useful. SERIES:

[Elite arbiter]

Does this stack with each copy on the field? Or will only one of them give you health no matter how many are splashed?

On a sidenote, perhaps the upped version should be called something like Selfish Sadism, fits a bit more thematically than generic 'improved' and makes sense in the card context.

[Firenotes]

I think a cost of 1 is too low for what this does, I'm thinkign 3 or 4 . This would be a great anti firestall card.

[LittleFighterFox]

I also agree that this card costs to little. It can splash into a couple of decks too leniently.
Basic version benefits you if you don't damage player.

Armagio is what I'm thinking of pair with this card. Gravity Pull, Acceleration and such makes good  synergy as you said.
Other cards; the darkness alchemy spell/gargoyle

Drain life doubles your gain, and is especially helpful for Gargoyle (You wouldn't want to hurt Armagio)

I'm just wondering, if you you a rain of fire, how much do you heal by? And what if the opponent holy light/Arch Angels or in general heals monsters?

[moomoose]

stacking wasn't intended, if that were desired then increasing the cost would be necessitated.  and likewise if the damage done to any creature benefited you.

selfish sadism doesnt really make sense, sadism is enjoying pain inflicted on others, so by default it is selfish, improved is basically just a generic term at this point in the game, "improved fog" or "improved dusk" etc are along the same vein.

if rain of fire were cast, it would depend on how much damage were incurred, holy light (assuming it was not a damaging cast) or arch angel will not really have an impact on this card, aside from healing creatures up to allow more damage be done to them.

[Firenotes]

even if it doesn't stack I still think 1 is too cheap. I would like to hear a vets take on this card.

[Pineapple]

Eh, you should say exactly how much is healed in the notes, so people don't assume it's a constant or random value. In addition, if people think it's OP, you can set its value to damage taken / 2 (rounded up) to maintain its low cost. Also, does its effect kick in when creatures are sacrificed?

Are you going to make a "masochism" card, with each instance of the player being damaged giving a random creature the player controls +1/+1?

About its OPness, the thing is that card deck doesn't really help you kill your opponent, it actually does very little to change the game for the 1/30th of the deck it hoards. I mean, even a Druidic Staff is more powerful.

[djk1880]

for the upped version would it be OP if its was you heal if any creature was damaged?

[moomoose]

it would need its cost bumped up considerably, yes

i was thinking about having this be a S&M card, but havent come up with a decent mechanic for masochism.

[bc247]

it would need its cost bumped up considerably, yes

i was thinking about having this be a S&M card, but havent come up with a decent mechanic for masochism.

Masochism: creatures heal 1 damage for each damage inflicted on you (upped just your creatures...or also remove infection effects)

[MV296]

As a true  fan I love the idea but it is a little cheap...
?
maybe 2/3 cost?

[UnderneathTheLens]

This would be fun with a Chimera, or maybe a pulled voodoo doll.