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Re: Rematerialize | Reconstruct (Semi-Permalink)
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2011, 04:36:33 pm »
I don't agree, for stealing a permanent (with steal) is much cheaper than copying a creature (with TU).. Same goes for explosion..
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Re: Rematerialize | Reconstruct (Semi-Permalink)
« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2011, 04:37:40 pm »
True, true. However, you could use this to copy your own. For instance, you could use this on your own mindgate or unstable gas.
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Re: Rematerialize | Reconstruct (Semi-Permalink)
« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2011, 04:39:29 pm »
You got a point too :) then I think we could agree about the fact that this card should cost a bit more, although not as much as TU?
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Re: Rematerialize | Reconstruct (Semi-Permalink)
« Reply #15 on: January 16, 2011, 04:41:00 pm »
1 more for each version would probably do it.

The reason I used mindgate and gas as my two examples are
1) if you are aether, you very well may have mindgates, and multiple mindgates often = ownage
2) gases do 20 damage. If you clone them, that is a large chunk of health right there.
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Re: Rematerialize | Reconstruct (Semi-Permalink)
« Reply #16 on: January 16, 2011, 04:43:06 pm »
I see your point. So yes, 1 more in each version should do the trick.
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Re: Rematerialize | Reconstruct (Semi-Permalink)
« Reply #17 on: January 16, 2011, 04:57:29 pm »
Hmmmmm, it is hard to say.  :(

1) Multiple Mindgates costs a lot of aether quanta to run each turn, i think it is more of a good synergy than being OP.

2) Unstable gas can be imba with this card but still that combo requires 3 elements. I doubt whether its abusable or not in a real game. Currently, i see it as a cool strategy.

I am not sure. I am more of a confused right now. It's difficult to compare this card to TU since creatures can be buffed a lot and then be copied. But for permanents you can't do that.   :-\
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Re: Rematerialize | Reconstruct (Semi-Permalink)
« Reply #18 on: January 16, 2011, 07:51:45 pm »
Quote from: Nik_V on January 16, 2011, 04:57:29 pm
Hmmmmm, it is hard to say.  :(

1) Multiple Mindgates costs a lot of aether quanta to run each turn, i think it is more of a good synergy than being OP.

2) Unstable gas can be imba with this card but still that combo requires 3 elements. I doubt whether its abusable or not in a real game. Currently, i see it as a cool strategy.

I am not sure. I am more of a confused right now. It's difficult to compare this card to TU since creatures can be buffed a lot and then be copied. But for permanents you can't do that.   :-\
what does imba mean?
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Re: Rematerialize | Reconstruct (Semi-Permalink)
« Reply #19 on: January 16, 2011, 09:03:11 pm »
Imbalanced.
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Re: Rematerialize | Reconstruct (Semi-Permalink)
« Reply #20 on: January 16, 2011, 09:15:05 pm »
Quote from: YoYoBro on January 16, 2011, 09:03:11 pm
Imbalanced.
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Re: Rematerialize | Reconstruct (Semi-Permalink)
« Reply #21 on: January 16, 2011, 10:11:46 pm »
Yup. Back to topic, Nick, do you think the card's cost is not worth being raised?
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Re: Rematerialize | Reconstruct (Semi-Permalink)
« Reply #22 on: January 16, 2011, 10:16:46 pm »
I think that this card is only imbalanced when you consider Unstable Gas.  :(

Is it right to consider balancing a card just for combo with a single card while it is balanced with rest of the entire cards ?
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Re: Rematerialize | Reconstruct (Semi-Permalink)
« Reply #23 on: January 16, 2011, 10:51:08 pm »
No of course. But I don't see it breaking the game in said case, there are better combos.

 So, to sum up, the card should either be left as it is or at most have its cost raised by one.
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