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Re: Prismatic Field | Prismatic Wall https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14213.msg182371#msg182371
« Reply #24 on: October 23, 2010, 01:30:37 am »
Cool card, although lowering the cost by one would be better. 1 cost minimum, 7 cost maximum, so 4 is the best for unupped and 3 is the best for upped.
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Re: Prismatic Field | Prismatic Wall https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14213.msg182376#msg182376
« Reply #25 on: October 23, 2010, 01:35:04 am »
I think that there should be a chance that the shield does nothing. 

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Re: Prismatic Field | Prismatic Wall https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14213.msg182435#msg182435
« Reply #26 on: October 23, 2010, 03:03:18 am »
There is a chance that it will do nothing.
Fog shield and hit = nothing.
Dusk shield and hit = nothing.
For the unupped, Hope with no counters = nothing.
Reflective Shield = nothing.
Dissipation Shield with no Entropy Quanta = nothing.
There's probably some more too.

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Re: Prismatic Field | Prismatic Wall https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14213.msg182809#msg182809
« Reply #27 on: October 23, 2010, 04:21:14 pm »
Does that mean that if there aren't any entropy quanta to fuel the Dissipation Shield effect, then the shield is destroyed?

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Re: Prismatic Field | Prismatic Wall https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14213.msg182819#msg182819
« Reply #28 on: October 23, 2010, 04:31:56 pm »
Does that mean that if there aren't any entropy quanta to fuel the Dissipation Shield effect, then the shield is destroyed?
What would happen if a creature got the Bone Wall effect? Would the attack be completely blocked, while destroying the shield? Same with Dissipation Shield, if you lack :entropy.
Hmm...
For bonewall, it would probably just block it.
For Dissipation field, if you don't have enough entropy, I guess it would just fail, but not destroy the shield.
That's what I was thinking.
The shield doesn't actually transform, creatures would just take the shield's effect.
Since Bonewall is a Block ability, it would just Block the attack. Since Dissipation Shield is a block in exchange for quanta ability, if you don't have enough quanta, the attack will not be blocked.

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Re: Prismatic Field | Prismatic Wall https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14213.msg183400#msg183400
« Reply #29 on: October 24, 2010, 08:14:12 am »
There is a chance that it will do nothing.
Fog shield and hit = nothing.
Dusk shield and hit = nothing.
For the unupped, Hope with no counters = nothing.
Reflective Shield = nothing.
Dissipation Shield with no Entropy Quanta = nothing.
There's probably some more too.
I guess he meant that there will be no shielding effects.
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Re: Prismatic Field | Prismatic Wall https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14213.msg183608#msg183608
« Reply #30 on: October 24, 2010, 04:39:56 pm »
There is a chance that it will do nothing.
Fog shield and hit = nothing.
Dusk shield and hit = nothing.
For the unupped, Hope with no counters = nothing.
Reflective Shield = nothing.
Dissipation Shield with no Entropy Quanta = nothing.
There's probably some more too.
I guess he meant that there will be no shielding effects.
I guess EvaRia was trying to say that that's not neccesary, it'd be an unneccesary nerf

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Re: Prismatic Field | Prismatic Wall https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14213.msg184859#msg184859
« Reply #31 on: October 26, 2010, 01:31:04 am »
Nice. Better than my "Chance attacking creature gets mutated" idea  :))

calling miss blocking for consistancy

Unupped:
solar buckler: block 1
Hope: typically does nothing
Thorn carapace: 75% poison for 1
Fire shield: deal 1
Grav shield: block if hp>5
bone shield: block 1
Bone wall: block
Phase shield: block
fog shield: 40% block all damage
Procrasination: time bubble.
Dusk mantle: 50% block all damage
reflective shield: nothing.
Jade shield: block 1
Dissipation: block all if quanta (this is in entropy deck, most likely)
Ice shield: block 1 and freeze

Analysis: 4 block for 1, 2 1/2 block all. 4 don't block any damage. 2 miss shields. 4 affect creature.
Hope is almost useless, unless it is in a mutation deck with RoLs.


I'm too lazy to see if that is balanced.

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Re: Prismatic Field | Prismatic Wall https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14213.msg184870#msg184870
« Reply #32 on: October 26, 2010, 01:39:14 am »
Actually, it could work with possibilities between effects instead of shields, I mean:
blocking 1 would be a possibility, blocking 1 and freezing another, just blocking too (only counted once), blocking 1 and grav shield effect not counted (just effects that actually EXIST on shields, as they are)
what do you think?
Maybe it'll be more balanced... Or unbalanced... Whatever  ???

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Re: Prismatic Field | Prismatic Wall https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14213.msg185638#msg185638
« Reply #33 on: October 27, 2010, 12:05:39 am »
Well, my only suggestion is to make it lower to 4 :entropy. Because the highest shield cost is 7: and the lowest cost is 1, so in between is 4.
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Re: Prismatic Field | Prismatic Wall https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14213.msg212378#msg212378
« Reply #34 on: November 29, 2010, 08:27:11 am »
Added a poll for the sake of testing an idea.
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Re: Prismatic Field | Prismatic Wall https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14213.msg245333#msg245333
« Reply #35 on: January 11, 2011, 08:09:34 pm »
A random effect  shield is perfectly suited for entropy! I don’t know much about the details of coding, what would slow down the game and what wouldn’t, but since I would be excited to see this implemented, I thought about how it could be organized and came up with the following chart:

Unupgraded:
There are 17 Shields, which makes each worth roughly 6%. I grouped a 3rd “100%” shield along with Phaseshield and Bonewall  to represent  the Fog and Dusk shields successfully blocking, and a 0% block shield for when they miss. Also, imo, if you trigger the dissipation effect and don’t have the quantum to pay for  the damage, I think it should break the shield.

Block All Damage
Block All Damage
Block All Damage
Block 2
Block 1
Block 1 & Reflect Magic
Block 1 & Convert to Light
Block 1 & Freeze
-1 Attacker HP
75% Chance to Poison
Wings
Gravity
Delay
Reflect Magic
Dissipation shield
Hope
No Effect


Upgraded:   Almost the same. –

Block All Damage
Block All Damage
Block All Damage
Block 3
Block 2 & Reflect Magic
Block 2 & Freeze
Block 2 & Reflect Magic
Block 1
Block 1 & Convert to Light
Block 1 & 75% Chance to Poison
Block 1 & Hope
-1 Attacker HP
Wings
Gravity
Delay
Dissipation Field
No Effect

 

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