*Author

Offline EvaRiaTopic starter

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 3143
  • Country: ca
  • Reputation Power: 45
  • EvaRia is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.EvaRia is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.EvaRia is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.EvaRia is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.EvaRia is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.EvaRia is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.EvaRia is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.EvaRia is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.EvaRia is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.
  • I~am~Eva, ~Chillwind~ I~am~Ria, ~Searwind~
  • Awards: War #5 Winner - Team Aether
Re: Prismatic Field | Prismatic Wall https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14213.msg179929#msg179929
« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2010, 07:31:25 pm »
Hmm...
For bonewall, it would probably just block it.
For Dissipation field, if you don't have enough entropy, I guess it would just fail, but not destroy the shield.

Offline Ekki

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1425
  • Country: ar
  • Reputation Power: 0
  • Ekki is a Spark waiting for a buff.
  • Not-so-young Elemental
Re: Prismatic Field | Prismatic Wall https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14213.msg179972#msg179972
« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2010, 08:36:30 pm »
Maybe think of effects... Bone wall has the "block" effect, as well as Phase Shield, while Dissipation Shield drains quanta ( :entropy or all) to block, but if it's not enough, just let the attack go through...

Offline EvaRiaTopic starter

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 3143
  • Country: ca
  • Reputation Power: 45
  • EvaRia is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.EvaRia is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.EvaRia is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.EvaRia is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.EvaRia is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.EvaRia is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.EvaRia is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.EvaRia is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.EvaRia is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.
  • I~am~Eva, ~Chillwind~ I~am~Ria, ~Searwind~
  • Awards: War #5 Winner - Team Aether
Re: Prismatic Field | Prismatic Wall https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14213.msg180022#msg180022
« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2010, 10:10:10 pm »
That's what I was thinking.
The shield doesn't actually transform, creatures would just take the shield's effect.
Since Bonewall is a Block ability, it would just Block the attack. Since Dissipation Shield is a block in exchange for quanta ability, if you don't have enough quanta, the attack will not be blocked.

Offline Nepycros

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2571
  • Reputation Power: 32
  • Nepycros is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.Nepycros is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.Nepycros is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.Nepycros is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.Nepycros is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.Nepycros is a Ghost, obsessed with their Elemental pursuits.
  • My creativity was OP, so I had to nerf it.
Re: Prismatic Field | Prismatic Wall https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14213.msg180225#msg180225
« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2010, 02:55:47 am »
It would be so cool if it had the counters for Bone Wall, even when the effect isn't activated.

Let's say that creatures attack, and the Bone Wall marker is set to 7 blocks. 2 creatures activate the bone wall effect, bringing the marker down to 5. Even though the Bone Wall ability may not be applied, it could still be measured by normal standards, meaning, for every creature that dies, the counter for Bone Wall increases invisibly. Same thing for Dissipation Shield. Once the counter (or Entropy quanta) goes down to 0, the ability for the shield to use the ability is removed, and it's left with the other shields.
Perception is the source of misunderstanding.

Why, yes. I do have a Mindgate necklace. It's how I ninja everyone.

Offline Ekki

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1425
  • Country: ar
  • Reputation Power: 0
  • Ekki is a Spark waiting for a buff.
  • Not-so-young Elemental
Re: Prismatic Field | Prismatic Wall https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14213.msg180246#msg180246
« Reply #16 on: October 20, 2010, 03:25:39 am »
It would be so cool if it had the counters for Bone Wall, even when the effect isn't activated.

Let's say that creatures attack, and the Bone Wall marker is set to 7 blocks. 2 creatures activate the bone wall effect, bringing the marker down to 5. Even though the Bone Wall ability may not be applied, it could still be measured by normal standards, meaning, for every creature that dies, the counter for Bone Wall increases invisibly. Same thing for Dissipation Shield. Once the counter (or Entropy quanta) goes down to 0, the ability for the shield to use the ability is removed, and it's left with the other shields.
It's a good idea, but too complicated, though...

Offline EvaRiaTopic starter

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 3143
  • Country: ca
  • Reputation Power: 45
  • EvaRia is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.EvaRia is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.EvaRia is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.EvaRia is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.EvaRia is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.EvaRia is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.EvaRia is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.EvaRia is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.EvaRia is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.
  • I~am~Eva, ~Chillwind~ I~am~Ria, ~Searwind~
  • Awards: War #5 Winner - Team Aether
Re: Prismatic Field | Prismatic Wall https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14213.msg180261#msg180261
« Reply #17 on: October 20, 2010, 03:46:03 am »
I agree, too complicated.
It's not supposed to be all shields in one.
It's supposed to be a shield that causes random effects based on other shields.
There's no reason to actually make it become a shield, it merely needs to copy the effect.

Offline Kuroaitou

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4662
  • Country: us
  • Reputation Power: 82
  • Kuroaitou is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.Kuroaitou is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.Kuroaitou is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.Kuroaitou is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.Kuroaitou is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.Kuroaitou is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.Kuroaitou is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.Kuroaitou is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.Kuroaitou is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.Kuroaitou is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.Kuroaitou is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.Kuroaitou is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.Kuroaitou is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.Kuroaitou is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.Kuroaitou is a mythical and divine giver of immortality, one of the Turquoise Nymphs.
  • Awards: Slice of Elements 10th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 9th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 8th Birthday CakeMaster of Mafia10th Trials - Master of TimeSlice of Elements 7th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 6th Birthday CakeSilver DonorSlice of Elements 5th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 4th Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 3rd Birthday CakeSlice of Elements 2nd Birthday CakeWeekly Tournament Winner
Re: Prismatic Field | Prismatic Wall https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14213.msg180431#msg180431
« Reply #18 on: October 20, 2010, 12:24:54 pm »
CURATOR COMMENT
-Capitalize 'Shield' in the 'Type' section of your table for the upped card, and fix the pluralization discrepancy in the Text section of the upgraded card idea (it should read "Attacking creatures take the effects...")


I can imagine the following scenario playing out and irritating the hell out of an enemy player against this shield:

All creatures miss - a Sapphire Charger misses because it's not airborne (fails against Wings), while a Ruby Dragon misses because of Phase Shield (invulnerability), and a Lava Golem misses because it has grown out of the shield's range (Gravity Shield). Phase Recluse is played, and gets frozen by the Permafrost effect, and the following Graboid misses because of the Fog Shield effect, etc.

^^; complicated, but interesting nonetheless.

Offline AnonymousRevival

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2173
  • Country: hk
  • Reputation Power: 25
  • AnonymousRevival is a proud Wyrm taking wing for the first time.AnonymousRevival is a proud Wyrm taking wing for the first time.AnonymousRevival is a proud Wyrm taking wing for the first time.AnonymousRevival is a proud Wyrm taking wing for the first time.AnonymousRevival is a proud Wyrm taking wing for the first time.
  • Aethemera, aether et lux
  • Awards: Slice of Elements 6th Birthday Cake
Re: Prismatic Field | Prismatic Wall https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14213.msg180476#msg180476
« Reply #19 on: October 20, 2010, 03:05:11 pm »
Just change the card name, Prismatic seems  :aether like term.
Ignotum venit retro vivere. :aether :light

Offline EvaRiaTopic starter

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 3143
  • Country: ca
  • Reputation Power: 45
  • EvaRia is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.EvaRia is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.EvaRia is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.EvaRia is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.EvaRia is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.EvaRia is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.EvaRia is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.EvaRia is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.EvaRia is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.
  • I~am~Eva, ~Chillwind~ I~am~Ria, ~Searwind~
  • Awards: War #5 Winner - Team Aether
Re: Prismatic Field | Prismatic Wall https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14213.msg180478#msg180478
« Reply #20 on: October 20, 2010, 03:08:38 pm »
How?
Quote from: Wiktionary
Separated or distributed by, or as if by, a transparent prism; formed by a prism; varied or brilliant in color.
ie: Every time creatures attack, they hit a random shifting colour, causing a random effect.
Seems entropic enough for me.

Offline AnonymousRevival

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2173
  • Country: hk
  • Reputation Power: 25
  • AnonymousRevival is a proud Wyrm taking wing for the first time.AnonymousRevival is a proud Wyrm taking wing for the first time.AnonymousRevival is a proud Wyrm taking wing for the first time.AnonymousRevival is a proud Wyrm taking wing for the first time.AnonymousRevival is a proud Wyrm taking wing for the first time.
  • Aethemera, aether et lux
  • Awards: Slice of Elements 6th Birthday Cake
Re: Prismatic Field | Prismatic Wall https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14213.msg180481#msg180481
« Reply #21 on: October 20, 2010, 03:17:25 pm »
fine.
Ignotum venit retro vivere. :aether :light

genraenera

  • Guest
Re: Prismatic Field | Prismatic Wall https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14213.msg181439#msg181439
« Reply #22 on: October 22, 2010, 12:14:06 am »
I love the idea, it fits entropy PERFECTLY, however I have a major concern.  Its almost too random, think about it this way:  You are playing a fractal phoenix deck against this shield.  You attack with 10 minor phoenix's, you will have no idea what the hell just happened; which phoenix hit which shield.  I guess that could be intentional, but the major problem I see in most crucible cards is that they are too complicated.  This card seems VERY complicated not only to understand, but to code. I'm no programmer, but I'd put money down that this would be laggy.  The code would have to generate a new shield every single attack, meaning each of the 10 attacks requires a new shield generation, which requires processing power, which creates lag.


My proposition:  Make it a permanent card with the following effect: 

Unupped:  "Each turn your shield is replaced with a random basic shield.  If you have no shield, a random basic shield will be given."  5 :entropy

Upped:  "Each turn your shield is replaced with a random advanced shield.  If you have no shield, a random basic shield will be given."  5 :entropy

Make sure you read the text VERY carefully, with the unupgraded you will always have an unupgraded shield, whereas with the upgraded you will first recieve an unupped shield, and if it is still in play at the end of the turn, it will be replaced by an upped shield.  This would be much easier to understand, and adequately entropic, while still being very potent if used correctly.  Also this would nearly eliminate the lag from the original idea. 

Offline Ekki

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1425
  • Country: ar
  • Reputation Power: 0
  • Ekki is a Spark waiting for a buff.
  • Not-so-young Elemental
Re: Prismatic Field | Prismatic Wall https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14213.msg181474#msg181474
« Reply #23 on: October 22, 2010, 01:06:34 am »
It's true, but I prefer the idea of just taking the effect...
Maybe the same effect every turn. I mean, in each turn it'll randomly choose a shield effect, but it'll use that shield effect in every creature in that turn. Next turn it'll change...
But this is just in case some coding issues come out, if not, keep it as it is ;)

 

anything
blarg: