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Prismatic Field | Prismatic Wall https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14213.msg179486#msg179486
« on: October 19, 2010, 01:03:57 am »
NAME:
Prismatic Field
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
5 :entropy
TYPE:
Permanent (Shield)
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Shield: Attacking creatures
take the effects of a random
shield.
NAME:
Prismatic Wall
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
4 :entropy
TYPE:
Permanent (Shield)
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Shield: Attacking creatures
take the effects of a random
improved shield.
ART:
http://www.sxc.hu/photo/753065
IDEA:
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NOTES:
Each attack gets a different random effect.
The effects don't happen automatically, chance effects still have their respective chances of working.
For example, an attacking creature gets the Permafrost Shield effect, 2 damage is reduced, but the freeze chance doesn't occur and the creature isn't frozen, while another creature takes Turtle Shield and gets delayed, etc. etc.
It might be a bit difficult to code, but would be a VERY fun shield to play =D
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Re: Prismatic Field | Prismatic Wall https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14213.msg179497#msg179497
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2010, 01:11:45 am »
I love the idea.
Maybe take a look at unupped-upped shields differences to have an idea of whether to make the upped the same cost as the unupped... Just a thought  :D

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Re: Prismatic Field | Prismatic Wall https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14213.msg179499#msg179499
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2010, 01:16:04 am »
Yah, maybe.
All in all it should be fine though, although it has the potential to do a lot, the stability of it is WAY down there, so I think it could warrant a slightly lowish cost.

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Re: Prismatic Field | Prismatic Wall https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14213.msg179510#msg179510
« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2010, 01:24:18 am »
If you say so  ;D

I think I will vote it if you take it to Crucible, I REALLY like the idea, and even more because it's SOOOO entropic  :P

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Re: Prismatic Field | Prismatic Wall https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14213.msg179532#msg179532
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2010, 01:41:27 am »
Would this have to be updated each time there's a new shield out?
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Re: Prismatic Field | Prismatic Wall https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14213.msg179547#msg179547
« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2010, 01:57:05 am »
It may have to, yeah.
Unless there's some shortcut to coding it...

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Re: Prismatic Field | Prismatic Wall https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14213.msg179748#msg179748
« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2010, 12:06:16 pm »
Up the cost. We don't need a cross between Bone Wall and Fire Shield here for only 4/3 Entropy.
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Re: Prismatic Field | Prismatic Wall https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14213.msg179788#msg179788
« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2010, 02:48:48 pm »
Where did you get the 3?

Then again, after looking over the prices again, I guess a cost of 5/4 would be best. The upped shields are significantly cheaper on average.

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Re: Prismatic Field | Prismatic Wall https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14213.msg179797#msg179797
« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2010, 03:15:21 pm »
Wow, reduced cost and better shield effect? I would upgrade this card first if it came out.

 = I think it's a little too much to add both as an improvement, either:
    Reduce upgraded cost but have it use random unupgraded shield effects[/li]
OR
    Keep upgraded and unupgraded costs the same and let upgraded shield use random upgraded shield effects, maybe even by a difference of 2 quanta.[/li]
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Re: Prismatic Field | Prismatic Wall https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14213.msg179834#msg179834
« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2010, 05:11:16 pm »
I actually like the idea of 5 :entropy|4 :entropy, as the effects are generally not THAT more powerful.
Maybe upping the cost a bit more won't be a mistake, but just my thought...

As I said, I REALLY like the idea

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Re: Prismatic Field | Prismatic Wall https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14213.msg179904#msg179904
« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2010, 06:54:21 pm »
Well honestly, only like...
6 shields (off the top of my head) actually get BETTER, and only marginally so.
They are:
 :earth Diamond Shield, +1 Defence
 :life Jade shield, +1 Defence
 :life Spine Carapace, +1 Defence
 :light Hope, +1 Defence
 :light Mirror Shield, +1 Defence
 :water Permafrost Shield, +1 Defence

Out of those, none have a considerable increase in cost, (2 at most, Spine and Mirror don't even change) plus they account for less than half the shields in the game. (Remember, what you get is TOTALLY random).
Hope, Mirror Shield, and Jade shield Effects are pretty low defences anyways, so letting it use upgraded shield effects isn't actually that big of a buff.

On the other hand, compare with the other shield upgrades, where they don't actually CHANGE, but instead have a 1 or 2 quantum DECREASE in cost.

So, I think it's pretty much fair as it is.

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Re: Prismatic Field | Prismatic Wall https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14213.msg179918#msg179918
« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2010, 07:17:01 pm »
What would happen if a creature got the Bone Wall effect? Would the attack be completely blocked, while destroying the shield? Same with Dissipation Shield, if you lack :entropy.

 

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