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Re: Mammoth | Wooly Mammoth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6277.msg68453#msg68453
« Reply #24 on: May 14, 2010, 02:00:50 am »
but remeber it has a lot of weakness to shockwave guys

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Re: Mammoth | Wooly Mammoth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6277.msg68457#msg68457
« Reply #25 on: May 14, 2010, 02:17:40 am »
You're going to shockwave my quinted Mammoth? I hope not.

With a very small amount of Aether pillars, that kind of deck could be unstoppable (lolpun) since you could send a Mammoth out and immediately quint it, making it invulnerable and removing the freezing, which was the only thing that balanced the card.
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Re: Mammoth | Wooly Mammoth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6277.msg68489#msg68489
« Reply #26 on: May 14, 2010, 05:10:06 am »
Earth/Aether with Gravity Mark would really be awesome.  Just think of it, you're probably massing extra  :gravity while waiting to get one of these out, maybe enough to play a protected Gravity Shield.  If you manage to survive the setup, now you can trample anything which has 3 or less HP and anything with 6 or more HP can't touch you.
Why worry about gravity shield when you could add unstoppable then quint it?  This is a 1-card killer in 6 turns or less.  Or consider twin universe, unstoppable x2, quint x2.  Nerfing needed here...
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Re: Mammoth | Wooly Mammoth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6277.msg68510#msg68510
« Reply #27 on: May 14, 2010, 07:47:12 am »
When you mean, target creature is 'destroyed', it is just another word for 'killed', or you want a different mechanism (like no production of bones, etc). Wouldn't make much sense, but who knows :)

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Re: Mammoth | Wooly Mammoth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6277.msg68794#msg68794
« Reply #28 on: May 14, 2010, 09:14:00 pm »
Sure you could quint it. That's 16 earth and 4 aether. An unkillable 16 attack creature with that ability is awesome. But for 16 quanta I can put down a lot of other awesome stuff as well. And to put unstoppable on it you'd need yet another kind of quanta. Plus you'd need to play all three cards in the same turn. Not an easy combo.

But yeah, it's a good combo with quint.

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Re: Mammoth | Wooly Mammoth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6277.msg71660#msg71660
« Reply #29 on: May 20, 2010, 08:05:46 am »
I like the concept of the card a lot, the elephant defrosting and running amok is great, however I don't like the card itself.

The mammoth won't come into play until late into the game and you have to worry about surviving that long. the high cost means you can't spam them and watch them defrost one after another.

In the current game, you have 2 options. Quintessence and parallel universe. I don't think quint is SUPPOSED to remove frozen status and if it is supposed to, I don't think it should. If it continues to tho, the combo may be broken. If the combo is changed, you're left with PU, which would result in the basic aether stall/beatdown deck.exce[t slower due to dual elements and frozen status. Might as well stick to mono aether since it has fewer weaknesses.

The trample does fit a mammoth, but I agree that it feels a bit tacked on to this card. Besides, earth has not really been a creature control type of element.

I also wouldn't be surprised to see anti-freeze cards or time cards similar to adrenaline (honestly I expected a time version of adrenaline before adrenaline) which may break the card by removing one of it's limiters.

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Re: Mammoth | Wooly Mammoth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6277.msg71684#msg71684
« Reply #30 on: May 20, 2010, 09:27:18 am »
I don't think quint is SUPPOSED to remove frozen status and if it is supposed to, I don't think it should.
It's supposed to work that way, it was a part of the updates a while back.

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Re: Mammoth | Wooly Mammoth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6277.msg72053#msg72053
« Reply #31 on: May 20, 2010, 10:59:38 pm »
Why did you choose :earth Earth for the Mammoth?

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Re: Mammoth | Wooly Mammoth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6277.msg72238#msg72238
« Reply #32 on: May 21, 2010, 08:18:55 am »
Why did you choose :earth Earth for the Mammoth?
The frozen mammoths are in the :earth.
What else she could chose? :gravity ?

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Re: Mammoth | Wooly Mammoth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6277.msg72363#msg72363
« Reply #33 on: May 21, 2010, 02:46:04 pm »
Why did you choose :earth Earth for the Mammoth?
The frozen mammoths are in the :earth.
What else she could chose? :gravity ?
Mammoths lived on the Tundra, :life.
Mammoths and in this case this particular one was Frozen under glacial shift. :water.

I'm mostly in query because the game is Elements and the Creatures in it are linked to there element in the Highest Sense, either being made of the Element in question or being tied so close to the Element that they forsake all others to survive. A Mammoth isn't made of Earth or require an elemental link with :earth to exist. A similar debate is occuring with Crusader. The art suggests a Human and Humans aren't locked elementaly so it seems wrong to some people. If Crusader was a Light Angel or a Humanoid made of light energy then there could be no doubt of its relationship.

I actually found that Mammoth in an odd link of languages could mean "Earth Horn"

Maybe as the idea goes forward the Mammoth could be made into a creature made of Stone? But Still gave me pause to question why a Fleshy Wooly Mammal would be linked to Earth above all others in a world of Elementals.

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Re: Mammoth | Wooly Mammoth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6277.msg72385#msg72385
« Reply #34 on: May 21, 2010, 03:08:30 pm »
Choosing the correct element was something I did have to spend some time doing because there wasn't really a perfect solution for it.

I think :water would be a poor choice because Water creatures seem to be living in, or very close to, water. It would be like: fish, fish, mammoth?

:life was my #2 choice but to me Life is more about creatures living in a forest or jungle, some place with a lot of plants and stuff. I see Mammoth more comfortable running in huge open plains or something.

While Earth has many underground and rock-like creatures, it also has this guy:


..which is why in the end I settled with Earth.

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Re: Mammoth | Wooly Mammoth https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6277.msg72390#msg72390
« Reply #35 on: May 21, 2010, 03:15:16 pm »
Choosing the correct element was something I did have to spend some time doing because there wasn't really a perfect solution for it.

I think :water would be a poor choice because Water creatures seem to be living in, or very close to, water. It would be like: fish, fish, mammoth?

:life was my #2 choice but to me Life is more about creatures living in a forest or jungle, some place with a lot of plants and stuff. I see Mammoth more comfortable running in huge open plains or something.

While Earth has many underground and rock-like creatures, it also has this guy:


..which is why in the end I settled with Earth.
Ok, fair that you had to settle on :earth as best choice.

Gnome rider looks like he lives under the earth, inside caves and rides a lizard creature that can climb over boulders and up cavern walls. The Elephantine species can't jump 6 inches without damaging itself. It isn't going to live in mountains. A query comes to mind, what element comes from a "Tundra" where the Mammoths would live?

 

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