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Title: Hurry | Haste
Post by: Fireleaf on November 15, 2011, 10:55:54 pm

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NAME: Hurry ELEMENT: Time COST: 4 :time TYPE: Spell ATK|HP: TEXT: Your pillars produce quanta.	NAME: Haste ELEMENT: Time COST: 0 TYPE: Spell ATK|HP: TEXT: Your pillars produce quanta twice and are then destroyed.

ART: Art by Kiselev Andrey. http://1photos.com/vintage-clock-face-hands-wood/ (http://1photos.com/vintage-clock-face-hands-wood/) IDEA: 714flame NOTES: Pillars include towers but not pendulums or marks. Example: You have 3 emerald pillars and 2 bone towers. You play Hurry. You lose 5 :time and gain 3 :life and 2 :death. Example #2. You have 5 stone towers and 3 time factories. You play Haste. You gain 10 :earth and 6 :time. The 8 permanents are all destroyed. Hurry is a card that comes in handy as a source of non-time quanta in the middle portion of the game. Haste is designed to be used very late in the game when you desperately need more quanta to finish off your opponent. The destruction of all pillars and towers caused by Haste is designed to prevent overuse. SERIES:

Title: Re: Hurry | Haste
Post by: Shrink on November 15, 2011, 10:58:24 pm

Ehhhhhhhh why not just turn a pillar or tower into one that creates two every turn..? Nobody wants their pillars going anywhere.

Title: Re: Hurry | Haste
Post by: Fireleaf on November 15, 2011, 11:16:33 pm

The idea with Haste was that would be used in situation where, for example, you have 1 hp left, your opponent has 3 crimson dragons, your opponent has 2 health, you have no creatures and only a Maxwell's Demon in your hand. You have 2 entropy pillars but need 3 more  :entropy to play the demon. You play haste, gain 4 entropy, play MD and win. The fact that you lost your pillars is irrelevant. Hope that helps you understand my idea.

Title: Re: Hurry | Haste
Post by: furballdn on November 16, 2011, 01:11:50 am

Is unupped hurry 4 or 5 :time? I see a bit of a contradiction in your first post.

Title: Re: Hurry | Haste
Post by: Fireleaf on November 16, 2011, 12:27:54 pm

4. sorry about that. I changed it in the image and forgot to change the text.

Title: Re: Hurry | Haste
Post by: mega plini on November 16, 2011, 12:45:30 pm

I like the Idea of haste!!!
sacrificing pillars for speed is awesome!!!

Title: Re: Hurry | Haste
Post by: rickerd on November 16, 2011, 12:52:02 pm

Hurry sound good but I don't like haste.( better making it the cheap version of hurry)

Title: Re: Hurry | Haste
Post by: oblivion1212 on November 16, 2011, 12:58:09 pm

why not reduce the quantum cost of unupped?

unupped and upped looks like mutation|improved mutation in the sense that they work (slightly if not wholly) differently from each other, which
i find interesting in a card  ^-^ ^-^

also: possible comeback of :aether fractal-recluses (too expensive in practice though)

Title: Re: Hurry | Haste
Post by: rickerd on November 16, 2011, 03:39:55 pm

Quote from: oblivion1212 on November 16, 2011, 12:58:09 pm

why not reduce the quantum cost of unupped?

unupped and upped looks like mutation|improved mutation in the sense that they work (slightly if not wholly) differently from each other, which
i find interesting in a card  ^-^ ^-^

also: possible comeback of :aether fractal-recluses (too expensive in practice though)

Indeed this card makes 2 skyblitzes posible in only one turn  :D

Title: Re: Hurry | Haste
Post by: mega plini on November 16, 2011, 04:50:52 pm

Quote from: rickerd on November 16, 2011, 03:39:55 pm

Quote from: oblivion1212 on November 16, 2011, 12:58:09 pm

why not reduce the quantum cost of unupped?

unupped and upped looks like mutation|improved mutation in the sense that they work (slightly if not wholly) differently from each other, which
i find interesting in a card  ^-^ ^-^

also: possible comeback of :aether fractal-recluses (too expensive in practice though)

Indeed this card makes 2 skyblitzes posible in only one turn  :D

and two fractals  ;D

Title: Re: Hurry | Haste
Post by: Ekki on November 16, 2011, 05:16:39 pm

Quote from: mega plini on November 16, 2011, 04:50:52 pm

Quote from: rickerd on November 16, 2011, 03:39:55 pm

Indeed this card makes 2 skyblitzes posible in only one turn  :D

and two fractals  ;D

And this is why the upped one destroys your pillars...

Great card, great concept! I totally like it! ;D
BTW, upped one doesn't need that "0" in the cost thing, you just let it empty (look at Photon/Spark)

Title: Re: Hurry | Haste
Post by: Rutarete on November 17, 2011, 04:39:21 am

Great finisher card!

Title: Re: Hurry | Haste
Post by: Brontos on November 17, 2011, 04:43:45 am

Good idea!  :)

I just don't like the huge effect/cost gap between the upped and the unupped versions.

Title: Re: Hurry | Haste
Post by: I8SumOrangesNItWasK on November 17, 2011, 04:49:36 am

I don't like the major difference of the unupped and upped cards. It seems like you had 2 ideas for seperate cards and combined them into one. :-S Kinda sloppy.

Also, I think Hurry should work for Pendulums. I like the idea of Haste more than Hurry.

Title: Re: Hurry | Haste
Post by: Ekki on November 17, 2011, 01:56:16 pm

Quote from: tiamats4esgares on November 17, 2011, 04:49:36 am

I don't like the major difference of the unupped and upped cards. It seems like you had 2 ideas for seperate cards and combined them into one. :-S Kinda sloppy.

Quote from: Brontos on November 17, 2011, 04:43:45 am

I just don't like the huge effect/cost gap between the upped and the unupped versions.

Well, it's like Chaos Seed/Chaos Power or Pufferfish and the unupped one... I mean, making it change the cost and slightly modify the mechanic actually turns a regular card in a creative one. Just decreasing the cost of the upped to 3 :time is unelegant.

Title: Re: Hurry | Haste
Post by: Fireleaf on November 17, 2011, 09:27:20 pm

Quote from: tiamats4esgares on November 17, 2011, 04:49:36 am

I don't like the major difference of the unupped and upped cards. It seems like you had 2 ideas for seperate cards and combined them into one. :-S Kinda sloppy.

Also, I think Hurry should work for Pendulums. I like the idea of Haste more than Hurry.

The reason I left the pendulums out was because of the issue over what kind of quanta the pendulums should produce with Hurry.

Thank you guys all so much for the feedback.

With regards to the difference between the upped and unupped versions, I used the destruction mechanic of Haste to discourage "automatic updating".

The idea was that having copies of both Hurry and Haste in your deck better allow you to get quanta on demand, or in dire situations, even more quanta at a steep cost.

Title: Re: Hurry | Haste
Post by: UserClone on November 17, 2011, 10:01:08 pm

I really like this, especially Haste. It's a last-ditch sort of thing, kind of along the lines of a Time version of my   :darkness Spite|Spite :darkness (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,33806.0.html)