Genbu | Genbu

[johannhowitzer]

I can see using this in a trio with Earth Pillars, Nymph's Tears, and Gravity Mark/Pull.  The synergy between the damage reduction and Gravity Pull would be a great defensive line, if you can pull off the combo.  Reverse Time would only reverse the Gravity Pull... so if you pack six of them, Reverse Time will only hurt a little.

[majofa]

The water is full of things that have shells and can absorb damage... oysters, clams, mollusks, and even turtles. So I don't think it's too much of a stretch having something with a shell prevent damage. 

[moomoose]

i agree, the creature fits the element, and the function fits the creature, but the function doesnt fit the element.  it isnt the worst thing ever, but it could be adjusted to make fit even better.

[majofa]

I've played Elements a lot, and aren't the only things right now that prevent damage... shields? Don't all elements have those?

We mustn't restrict creativity because we want certain elements to be only certain ways.

[moomoose]

that is true, but there is a difference between everything having one defined slot for a shield and a theme which the elements themselves have.  the shields themselves reflect those themes.  you could argue that one of water's themes is water creatures with active abilities of other elements, so making the skill an active ability with cost would put this firmly in with the other water creatures.

i had a similar issue with clown fish, a while back.  it was a creature but it had much more of an feel to it. 

[majofa]

That's what I'm saying.. which cards show that Earth is the 'damage prevention' element? I see a lot more delaying in it than anything. There are no cards outside of shields that prevent any kind of damage. So saying that damage prevention is Earth's is doing so without basis...

Anyways, we're getting a little sidetracked... how does the balance of this card look?

[moomoose]

aye, nothing explicitly says prevent damage about earth, it is just a more defensive element as a whole.  water creatures are mostly a hybrid with other elements. if we disagree, thats fine, its your card

as far as balance goes, its a bit difficult because its a med-high atk creature with some built in defense, if it were me i would lower both the cost and atk, but technically there is nothing wrong with how it currently is.

[majofa]

I jumped around with the attack a little, but eventually settled on 7 (& 8). If it was too low, it'd be the same as Toadfish, and too high would make the Dragon obsolete.

I submitted it to the Crucible, hopefully it does as well as Seiryuu. Suzaku will be released in a couple weeks. And Byakko at a later date.

[bucky1andonly]

hp needs to drop by 1, i did say this earlier in a bit more detail

[johannhowitzer]

Important clarification: would multi-hit Bolt spells be reduced per-bolt or total damage?  Would a Fire Bolt with 10 deal 4 damage or 5?

[majofa]

Total damage, I'll add that to the notes.

[majofa]

I actually unsubmitted this from the Crucible.. That snake in the picture... I really want it to do something.

I was thinking something simple though, like:

: Do 1 damage to target.

It's not superpowerful, but it can be effective against certain decks. Maybe the the ability could be since Genbu is also known as the 'Black Tortoise' and Water doesn't have synergy with Darkness yet.

Thoughts?

(also 2 stars? Do people really hate it that much??)