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Electric Lizard | Lightning Lizard https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21665.msg277361#msg277361
« on: February 24, 2011, 12:05:17 am »
NAME:
Electric Lizard
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
6 :life
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
4|2
TEXT:
:aether :aether : Shock
Deal 4 damage to target creature.
NAME:
Lightning Lizard
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
5 :life
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
4|2
TEXT:
:aether :aether : Shock
Deal 4 damage to target creature.
ART:
Kamietsu
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NOTES:
So basically a weak :life card that is expensive and has damage on a stick.  Trying to make a legitimate :life / :aether card.
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Re: Electric Lizard | Lightning Lizard https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21665.msg277364#msg277364
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2011, 12:13:00 am »
Huh. Looks good. Weak, but strong at the same time.

I don't see how this belongs to  :life though. Mono would do this card one better IMO.
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Re: Electric Lizard | Lightning Lizard https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21665.msg277381#msg277381
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2011, 01:13:53 am »
I see your moving onto fusion cards, well i like the idea as Noobiecakes said weak stats and easily killable but great ability plus the cost should balance what the card does. Erm what other changes you might be thinking of for this card jimmy if you wanted to edit it?
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Re: Electric Lizard | Lightning Lizard https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21665.msg277437#msg277437
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2011, 03:12:16 am »
Hurray for  :aether/ :life
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Re: Electric Lizard | Lightning Lizard https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21665.msg277448#msg277448
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Re: Electric Lizard | Lightning Lizard https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21665.msg277451#msg277451
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2011, 03:35:29 am »
why lizard?
why not eel?


oh wait, nm... eel is water-based...

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Re: Electric Lizard | Lightning Lizard https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21665.msg277457#msg277457
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2011, 03:57:46 am »
Maybe delay anything that eats it? Makes sense.

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Re: Electric Lizard | Lightning Lizard https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21665.msg277460#msg277460
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2011, 04:06:32 am »
Boingo had an interesting idea.  This card could possibly kill under water creatures.

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Re: Electric Lizard | Lightning Lizard https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21665.msg277474#msg277474
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2011, 04:55:21 am »
I have been summoned.

This is a good card idea. (a little on the late side considering Warden but it could coexist as an alternate version of one use of guard.)

Very good job creating a duo card thematically here.
Lizards are creatures of jungles so the name fits thematically as Life
Shocking is mechanically part of Aether as lightning
Luckily electric lizards already were a fictional creature and thus were able to tie the two elements together rather then being better as a mono aether card.

Nice art to boot.

Now on to mechanics:
The upgrade is 1hp->3hp. Under my old theory this is an unacceptable upgrade but if the casting cost were to decrease by 1 :life as well it would be great. [New theory is still barely started and thus silent]

The ability is an improved snipe [+3] on a creature[+3->+2] with a high end expensive cost[+2->+1] in a second element[+1->+0]. It is also of the elements that get a -1 cost reduction weirdly enough [+0->-1].
This would make me think that it deserves a casting cost equal to stat value -1|-2.

However the ability is a versatile ability as very powerful if it enters the game fast. As such it would be best if this card cost around 5 :life|4 :life or 5 :life|5 :life.
To solve this I would suggest increasing the size/ferocity of the lizard.

Suggestion: Make it a 5|6 -> 6|6 for 5 :life|5 :life. Maybe even 6|6 -> 7|7 for 6 :life|6 :life
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Re: Electric Lizard | Lightning Lizard https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21665.msg277705#msg277705
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2011, 04:02:53 pm »
Maybe I'm missing something but the ability cost just seems too expensive...I understand we're comparing to Owl's Eye but isn't this just a milder form of Lightning?
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Re: Electric Lizard | Lightning Lizard https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21665.msg277714#msg277714
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2011, 04:14:11 pm »
Maybe I'm missing something but the ability cost just seems too expensive...I understand we're comparing to Owl's Eye but isn't this just a milder form of Lightning?
this is a none rare, non animated version of OE with a bit more punch.  This card is very violent. and as such must be kept expensive anless we neuter the ability a bit.


I think I settled on 6/4 for unupped and upped with a 7 and 5 cost for balance purposes.  4 hp is critical to make the thing killable. so a 6/4 5 cost life critter with CC would fit nicely along with charger, destroyer, gargoyle, etc.

Potentially I can make the creature target a random opponents creature, or do say 2 direct damage to yourself. to lower the ability cost.

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Re: Electric Lizard | Lightning Lizard https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21665.msg277996#msg277996
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2011, 11:23:04 pm »
Drop the shock to :aether :aether. Next give it really weak hp but better attack - this makes it fragile which I think was what you wanted but allows it to be more balanced.

Stats like 4|1 and 5|1.

That is just my opinion....


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