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Re: Echo | Echo https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21641.msg296462#msg296462
« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2011, 03:39:38 am »
From your wording, that includes your opponent's last played spell as well.

The cost is too high. Copying a spell isn't all that powerful, because you would have to most likely duo to even use the copied spell. I suggest the cost be lowed to 2  :air l 1  :air.

Other idea: You don't have to limit it to just spells you know. Having other things in there are nice too. If you do that though, a cost of 3  :air l 2  :air should be good.

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Re: Echo | Echo https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21641.msg296463#msg296463
« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2011, 03:44:54 am »
At first, when I saw "Cannot copy Silence" I thought, "Yeah, chanining Silences would be bad"... But then I realised, how in the name of Zanzarino is Silence supposed to have Echo if it is ...well, no sound. Then I read the notes :P

Whatever, fits both thematically and balance-wise. I really like it. Kaos, I'm just starting to believe you're a Card Creating genius. I really like every single card you create. You're my hero no, that's too much.

Whatever, 4 :air|3 :air fits and is balanced. I would say that even 3 :air|2 :air can be OK, but that 2 :air risk to get into a Fire Bolt stall with Air for splash and help them too much.

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Re: Echo | Echo https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21641.msg296554#msg296554
« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2011, 11:38:11 am »
I'm thinking about decreasing the cost to 3|2... But echoing a SoG doesn't sound me good. xD

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Re: Echo | Echo https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21641.msg296555#msg296555
« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2011, 11:40:46 am »
At first, when I saw "Cannot copy Silence" I thought, "Yeah, chanining Silences would be bad"... But then I realised, how in the name of Zanzarino is Silence supposed to have Echo if it is ...well, no sound. Then I read the notes :P

Whatever, fits both thematically and balance-wise. I really like it. Kaos, I'm just starting to believe you're a Card Creating genius. I really like every single card you create. You're my hero no, that's too much.
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Whatever, 4 :air|3 :air fits and is balanced. I would say that even 3 :air|2 :air can be OK, but that 2 :air risk to get into a Fire Bolt stall with Air for splash and help them too much.
Yeah the problem of chaining spells like bolts o AoE is the reason that convinced me to make it cost 4|3.^^

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Re: Echo | Echo https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21641.msg296560#msg296560
« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2011, 11:56:23 am »
Really like this one. Great idea and the cost is ok too.

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Re: Echo | Echo https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21641.msg296725#msg296725
« Reply #17 on: March 23, 2011, 08:40:04 pm »
SoDs are a spell.  ::)

And hey, this is elements. Echoing a Silence isn't impossible, because you would have to shout or do something to Silence someone, thus making some sound. Same goes for SoDs. Did you not hear that Heal sound effect when it is played?
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Re: Echo | Echo https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21641.msg296739#msg296739
« Reply #18 on: March 23, 2011, 08:46:32 pm »
SoDs are a spell.  ::)

And hey, this is elements. Echoing a Silence isn't impossible, because you would have to shout or do something to Silence someone, thus making some sound. Same goes for SoDs. Did you not hear that Heal sound effect when it is played?
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So SoD isn't Echoed? Why? We have already the cap of 500 max hp, so it wouldn't be OP neither broken to let it being Echoable :P
And about Silence, the thing is about balance. Chaining too many Silences is bad, is like not letting you play for 12 turns :o (the same happens when someone does something that increase Dim Shield chains, both things are bad)

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Re: Echo | Echo https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21641.msg319971#msg319971
« Reply #19 on: April 26, 2011, 12:31:35 am »
OMFG MIRACLE SPAM!

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Re: Echo | Echo https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21641.msg319986#msg319986
« Reply #20 on: April 26, 2011, 12:48:41 am »
OMFG MIRACLE SPAM!
I think 4 :air|3 :air is a sufficient cost for an extra Miracle in the hand.
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Re: Echo | Echo https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21641.msg322969#msg322969
« Reply #21 on: April 29, 2011, 09:37:30 pm »
Didn't notice this card until Double Spell got the comments.  Definitely balanced, and I like the synergy with Thunderstorm (which could use a little help).  My only concern is Shockwaves, but still, Air is the element with renewable damage-based CC (Owl's Eye), so I doubt it's too strong.

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Re: Echo | Echo https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21641.msg323013#msg323013
« Reply #22 on: April 29, 2011, 10:38:45 pm »
Got to find a way to make double spell acceptable next to this  :(
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Re: Echo | Echo https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21641.msg323019#msg323019
« Reply #23 on: April 29, 2011, 10:41:41 pm »
It happens.  Just discovered someone made a card two months ago that's nearly identical (same name, in fact) to a card I've had in the Forge for almost a year.  It's just not possible for people to scan every single card idea before they make one of their own, and with the volume of this section of the forums nowadays, it's getting less and less practical to keep up with every idea in the Crucible and beyond.  No way you could have known by the topic title that "Echo" had a doublecast mechanic.

 

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