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Re: Dual Shield | Dual Buckler https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9282.msg141936#msg141936
« Reply #72 on: August 19, 2010, 02:07:11 pm »
In your first response you assumed a non-upped bone wall. Upped bonewall costs 5 :death, not 7 :death. The quanta cost for this combo is reachable by most rainbows.
You're right! Even worse! =)
The thing is with the new pendulams this card is quite OP since now it is fairly easy to balance a duo and maybe even a trio deck. so im looking for possible nerfs any ideas?
Why not make it consume ALL quanta instead of just all  :earth ?( http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,11363.msg151990#msg151990 )
This doesn't affect a mono  :earth at all, but it really punishes rainbows and multi's, which are the ones that benefit most from this card as well.

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Re: Dual Shield | Dual Buckler https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9282.msg142160#msg142160
« Reply #73 on: August 19, 2010, 08:50:29 pm »
I guess.... I'll add a poll.

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Re: Dual Shield | Dual Buckler https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9282.msg142306#msg142306
« Reply #74 on: August 20, 2010, 01:39:22 am »
drain all to keep this card in line if not i still feel its reachable by almost all rainbows and it would be OP

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Re: Dual Shield | Dual Buckler https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9282.msg142983#msg142983
« Reply #75 on: August 21, 2010, 01:00:12 am »
The thing is with the new pendulams this card is quite OP since now it is fairly easy to balance a duo and maybe even a trio deck. so im looking for possible nerfs any ideas?
maybe make it an artifact, that drains  :earth every turn (like flooding), once the artifact is destroyed, the second shield slot reverts to weap slot, and the shield in it is destroyed (this way woul need a bit of cost reduction, i would say ~7 :earth for upped +3-4/turn)

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Re: Dual Shield | Dual Buckler https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9282.msg142985#msg142985
« Reply #76 on: August 21, 2010, 01:03:21 am »
edited poll.

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Re: Dual Shield | Dual Buckler https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9282.msg143342#msg143342
« Reply #77 on: August 21, 2010, 02:03:15 pm »
The thing is with the new pendulams this card is quite OP since now it is fairly easy to balance a duo and maybe even a trio deck. so im looking for possible nerfs any ideas?
maybe make it an artifact, that drains  :earth every turn (like flooding), once the artifact is destroyed, the second shield slot reverts to weap slot, and the shield in it is destroyed (this way woul need a bit of cost reduction, i would say ~7 :earth for upped +3-4/turn)
Hmm, I like this alternative, and I think 7 to play is even a bit high. I'd say 5 :earth + 3 :earth /turn

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Re: Dual Shield | Dual Buckler https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9282.msg152894#msg152894
« Reply #78 on: September 06, 2010, 12:41:08 am »
Lol more votes for UP then OP. Looking for any possible buffs now. Any ideas?

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Re: Dual Shield | Dual Buckler https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9282.msg162632#msg162632
« Reply #79 on: September 21, 2010, 11:47:53 pm »
These are not enough votes for results, I think.

I think, your card effect is not well-defined.
And not balanced. 289 Shield combinations.
e.g.
Titanium Shield + Gravity Shield = ? (OP if both shields work normal)
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Re: Dual Shield | Dual Buckler https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9282.msg162645#msg162645
« Reply #80 on: September 21, 2010, 11:56:56 pm »
These are not enough votes for results, I think.

I think, your card effect is not well-defined.
And not balanced. 289 Shield combinations.
e.g.
Titanium Shield + Gravity Shield = ? (OP if both shields work normal)
What's wrong with 289 combinations. Fractal synergized with every creature this does that with every shield.

Titanium+Gravity=Many cards found in speed deck popping through the combo you spent a huge amount of quanta on. Sure OP when combined with SoG, but that is SoG being OP not this card.

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Re: Dual Shield | Dual Buckler https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9282.msg167347#msg167347
« Reply #81 on: September 29, 2010, 04:53:32 pm »
Nah SOG isn't the only heal card, even purifies would make the combo OPed.
It takes a long time to set up tho. :o

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Re: Dual Shield | Dual Buckler https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9282.msg167495#msg167495
« Reply #82 on: September 29, 2010, 08:57:42 pm »
Nah SOG isn't the only heal card, even purifies would make the combo OPed.
It takes a long time to set up tho. :o
But fi it takes so long... How is it more OP then lets say a hope shield.

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Re: Dual Shield | Dual Buckler https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9282.msg170964#msg170964
« Reply #83 on: October 05, 2010, 02:14:00 am »
Permafrost + Permafrost = ragequit

Meh, it may or may not be OP/UP, it would need to be tested first to figure that out. 


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5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5ic 5ic 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 778 77c 77h 77h 77h 77h 77h 77h 7gp 7gp 7gp 7gr 7gr 7gr 7gr 7gr 7gr 111 111 111(111 = Dual Buckler)

Look what I made!  I don't have all those things upped yet, so imagine they are, and that some of those towers are pendulums instead.  You see the concept, that is one wtf-ragequit-throw-keyboard-into-wall stall if I've ever seen one.


Edit:  Now I want this card to come out so I can make this deck  :P

 

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